By John DowPosted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 13:24 GMT
Of course the best way to work out a price is to simply apply the exchange rate. Because all national economies are exactly the same; people are paid the same, the cost of living is the same and any differences you may notice are purely down to your own overactive imaginations.
By Richard KilpatrickPosted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:04 GMT
Repeat after me and everyone else commenting no doubt:
US prices exclude sales taxes
US prices usually include a 90-day, not 1 year, warranty (how this applies to the 360 post "ring of death" I'm unsure of, as I thought they had a 3 year warranty for that issue alone).
Actual comparison?
£164.50.
So £35 more for possibly an implied warranty extension, and variations in local costs. And of course room for reseller discounts where applicable.
What I find more intriguing is the price <i>increase</i>. The Core was pitched directly against the Wii at £179 following recent price drops; the Arcade merely matches the Wii's inclusion of a Wireless controller and some memory for downloaded games/content (Wii has 512MB built in IIRC, still not enough for the vast range of titles available which cannot be played from SD card).
Now the Xbox is at the (presumably) £199 point and no longer competes directly. Seems like a needless stage in the reshuffle, I think think they need to align thus:
Good: 360 with 20GB HD and Wired controller - £179
Better: 360 with 120GB HD and Wireless controller - £279
Best: 360 with 120GB HD, HD-DVD internal driver, and Wireless controller - £329 (or £349 with bundled WiFi adaptor, hitting the PS3 square in the crossover HD-media player and console market position).
I think the HD is vital for pushing their Live! service and purchased downloadable content.
By David HearnPosted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:35 GMT
So, $280 plus postage to the UK - make that $320. Convert that to £, that's approx £160. Add 2.2% import duty (that's the rate for games consoles), that's now £163.52. Add 17.5% VAT on, now it's up to £192.14. Finally, add £10-£20 customs fee from the courier - and you're over the £200 list price.
So, actually, it's not that much of a difference in costs.
By ScottKPosted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:42 GMT
Presumably the 200 quid is inclusive of VAT, whereas the US price is exclusive of sales tax which varies by state and gets added at point of purchase.
This still makes the ex VAT price 170 quid though, so we are still get stiffed in ripoff Britain, especially as the strong £ to $ should make US imports cheaper.
By Mark WPosted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 17:23 GMT
You all seem to forget we live on a little island here in the UK, and the USA is a rather large continent with just a few more people over there than here, and the box they ship in the UK is slightly different (PAL, Region 2 and 240V) and thus although comes off the same production line, has different costs associated with it, which they pass onto us, the punters.
I agree it sucks - but the cost of consoles is small fry. Don't get me started on the cost of Cars in the UK vs USA.... (Care to compare the cost of a Chrysler 300C in the UK vs the USA...)
By SimonPosted Wednesday 24th October 2007 07:17 GMT
There is no 65nm GPU for the XBOX 360 yet.
All HDMI XBOX 360s are either 'Zephyr' motherboard (as first seen in the Elite) with 90nm CPU and GPU, or the 'Falcon' motherboard (with 65nm CPU and 90nm GPU, as seen in newer Elites and Premium/Pros, and most probably in the new Arcade).
The 65nm GPU boards ('Jasper') are not due out until August 2008:
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 24th October 2007 08:08 GMT
"You do realize that $1 has the same spending power in the US as £1 does in the UK. Your £50,000 job would only be making $50,000 in the US."
And why is that? One of the big reasons is the UK has a law preventing parallel importing (part of the copyright act), so companies can't import the US version of a product and neutralize the price difference like they use to be able to in the '80s.
Another part of Tony's legacy. An anti-free-trade abomination.
Comments on: Microsoft opens Xbox 360 Arcade
Huh? #
By Jason Irwin Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 11:50 GMT
Mmmmm....... #
By Rich Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 12:02 GMT
$1 per £1 #
By Stig Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 12:11 GMT
Falcon or not? #
By Peter Gibbins Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 12:55 GMT
Tax! #
By sd99 Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 13:24 GMT
Well, duh! #
By John Dow Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 13:24 GMT
Quit complaining #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 13:37 GMT
Import? #
By Sampler Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 13:59 GMT
TV shows? #
By Brian Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:01 GMT
*Yawn* #
By Richard Kilpatrick Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:04 GMT
Memory? #
By Matt Milford Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:22 GMT
Don't forget Customs duty and VAT on that #
By David Hearn Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:35 GMT
VAT #
By James Dennis Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:41 GMT
Tax #
By ScottK Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 14:42 GMT
Sales Tax #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 15:29 GMT
Economies of Scale #
By Mark W Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 17:23 GMT
@Peter Gibbins #
By Ian Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 19:31 GMT
up to 8%? #
By CD Posted Tuesday 23rd October 2007 20:50 GMT
Chicago sales tax is 9.75% #
By kain preacher Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 01:56 GMT
@Ian #
By Simon Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 07:17 GMT
Spending power #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 24th October 2007 08:08 GMT