Reg Hardware

Comments on: Tool opens iPhone, iPod Touch via web

possibly a bad idea 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 12:39 GMT

"The code uses a known vulnerability with firmware 1.1.1, which it subsequently patches."

so if it fixes the vulnerability, then how would you go about reversing the changes if you no longer wish to use the not-really-all-that-amazing-3rd-party-apps afterwards? and when Apple release 1.1.x with the killer must-have enhancement that you want, how do you go about applying a hack to revert your iPhone to pre-hack status? surely only a hardware reset which'll wipe all your data

also, while you have to respect there is some technical complexity probably involved in opening the machines via a web interface, it just makes it too easy doesn't it? which means that Apple will be bound to step in to fix it, which ultimately means it'll make it harder for the machines to be hacked in the future

(my main gripe here is that by the time i get my hands on an iPhone at the UK launch next month, it'll be impossible for me to load 3rd party apps and it'll all be the fault of this AppSnap!! damn their eyes!!)

Works fine on Touch 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 12:50 GMT

Thumb Up

If only all installations were this easy.. A URL, one click and a reboot was all it took to ruin yet another work day playing with my Touch!

In other words: it works like a charm.

Woo 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 12:54 GMT

Thumb Up

Not that I'd ever buy an iPhone but good to see Apple kicked in the teeth for their lockdown nonsense. Same with Sony and the PSP, when will the corporates learn to let people do what they want with their devices once they have bought them?

Re: Woo 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 14:13 GMT

"When will the corporates learn to let people do what they want with their devices once they have bought them?"

Probably the day after consumers stop going for lower up-front costs, and instead consider only total cost of ownership. Which will happen shortly after loans stop making sense. That is, never.

Hold on? 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 14:19 GMT

"when will the corporates learn to let people do what they want with their devices once they have bought them?"

When will people who are on a mobile phone contract realise that they don't own the *subsidised* phone until they have paid for it?

Also, games consoles are often subsidised as they are sold at loss on the hope of revenue generated by software purchases. If you are able to run homebrew o the PSP then you won't buy any games.

If you want freedom you buy a SIM free phone, open source games console (or a PC for games).

RE: Works fine on Touch 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 14:56 GMT

Jobs Horns

You say it works fine, what you going to do when Apple releases 1.1.2 and your touch suddenly stops working???

Restore 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 15:16 GMT

Thumb Up

@jai:

If you no longer want a Jailbreak'd device, you just do a full restore via iTunes. Everything is back to normal after that.

@ Giles 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 16:17 GMT

Thumb Down

part of the problem specific with the i-devices, especially the iPhone, is you *cannot* buy an unsubsidized device. That's the reason for the CA based class action lawsuit. AT&T/Apple did not make the option available at launch, and possibly haven't even done so yet. Not even for a ridiculous premium. Even Apple employees were unable to score an unlocked device. Also, IIRC, the device physically cannot function in any mode without the SIM card, so they refused to sell a non-working device.

love the article title... 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 16:20 GMT

Coat

"Tool opens iPhone"... now it's official, only a "tool" would buy one in the first place. Or does it take thinly-endowed users to open the case? :P

now the Touch-if it makes a good PDA, now that might be something.

Erm... 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 16:26 GMT

Alert

Giles,

It's a common known fact that the iPhone is not subsidised. Also, the iPod touch is purchased outright, as it has no contract, so in both cases the buyer does own the product from day one.

Happy to assist... 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 19:21 GMT

Coat

Tell y'all what...

Anyone out there who doesn't want their iPhone, just box it up and send it to me. You won't see me listing it on eBay, 'cause it's gonna be jailbreak'd and set up on Viaero -- the only GPRS (or whatever) carrier available in central Nebraska (I do miss my old North Texas home)

Am I missing something ? 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 21:25 GMT

Isnt this a little worrying, that the product can be hacked remotely and so easily ? How long before the malware crowd start to take notice of this trick ?

What a wonderful thought, Zombie iPhones spewing out Viagra spam :)

Worked like a charm! 

Posted Monday 29th October 2007 22:41 GMT

And to think that last week you had to go through some 100 step geek-fest to get it working, just incredible work.

The ipod touch is now the greatest gadget of all time.

Works just fine 

Posted Tuesday 30th October 2007 08:58 GMT

Thumb Up

I tried this last night and within half an hour I managed to Jailbreak my iPod Touch, install the BSD SubSystem and OpenSSH so I could connect using SFTP from my PC and then put the 'missing' iPhone applications like mail and maps onto my iPod - fantastic!

If Apple decides to release new firmware with some amazing extra features then maybe I'll reset to factory defaults and upgrade, but I really can't see myself doing that unless they offer some compelling feature I can't get through 3rd party applications.

There's really nothing to lose by Jailbreaking an iPod Touch at the moment, iTunes works exactly as it did before the Jailbreak and I have some great extra functionality. Coupled with my BT-FON Wireless access I can now get my mail on the move in a very friendly UI :-)

Err... restore.... 

Posted Tuesday 30th October 2007 10:19 GMT

Restoring is great for getting rid of software changes etc, but a hardware reset is somewhat unlikely to reset a firmware change folks.

It would be a bit daft if it did.

Shouldn't the title read... 

Posted Tuesday 30th October 2007 13:23 GMT

Stop

"iPhone software hideously insecure, owners advised to avoid all websites until patch is issued"?

Seriously - visiting a website is all it takes to make large changes to the device? 'kin hell.