Apple have been doing all in one machines for ages.

But all their machines not have decent 3D graphics, not integrated graphics like this does.

The nagware line really tickled me... Thanks for the friday afternoon frivolity!

So Giles, you are telling us the apple all in one's dont have decent 3D graphics.. interesting.

"But all their machines not have decent 3D graphics, not integrated graphics like this does."

... the Mac doesn't have grammar checker.

Also, there have been PC All-in-one machines for ages.

http://www.vartechsystems.com/products/panelpc/LargeScreenAllinOneComputers.asp

The reason the 'PC world' (Does Apple not make personal computers?) took so long to catch up is because all in one computers more or less suck.

And the reason that the iMacs all have nice video cards is because OS X needs a fair amount of graphics power to perform nicely.

Dunno about anyone else, but I've always liked the ability to mix and match parts. If you want an all in one computer, you might as well just get a laptop.

Its a mediacenter box designed for the do more for less crowd. Its not designed for gaming like the rest of the xps line. Its basically for giving media center to people that don't like computer because of all the other devices you have to have for you standard setup. As far as the all in one box this is actually the second time dell has tried this. the first time was a awhile back and they spent tons of money developing it and it was a disaster. This time they're just going with off the shelf parts to "test the waters" if you will. Its basically a 1400 tv/dvr

But, I am an Apple fanboy and I don't understand Dell's pricing.

The iMacs are actually less money and better performance.

Stewey: Did you know that Brad Pitt is John Lithgow's nephew?

Brian: No, is that true?

Stewey: No, but doesn't that sound like something that could be true?

Merging of devices is getting closer. Won't be long now before we can buy a combination TV/PC/Console/DVD/BluRay/HD/DVR/MP3/DivX/GPS/Oven/Microwave/ATM device.

And then of course, Apple will come up with a portable one with a touchscreen and a hefty monthly contract...

...says Dell's web site. Why have Dell been keeping this bad news from their shareholders and customers?

Dell would also like to help you to spam your friends and family soliciting Dell gift contributions via Paypal for Christmas. In fact they'll spam your whole hotmail/Yahoo/gmail address book for you:

http://yoursishere.com

If they can't provide a decent OS, they can't sell it to me. Guess I'll get a Mac after all.

But only if I can have it running XP... or even Linux...?

:-)

First - I've got this horrible suspicion that the existence of this system is why the exquisite XPS M2010 (yes, I do have one, and yes, it is wonderful - not in a "this is a great laptop" way, but in a "this is a great computer for pretty much everything I do" way) hasn't been updated to Santa Rosa architecture, but is still on sale with the older chipset.

Second - what was that about Apples being expensive? In the Real World, most computer consumers (i.e. not businesses with IT professionals wanting to fix/tinker, or nerds building their systems, or hardcore gamers) never crack open their PC. In fact, many are afraid to do so. The iMac is a very strong seller - perhaps if Dell have got this right (it LOOKS better than the All-in-one Vaios, but how thick is it? Does it bulge like they do?) then this willl be a credible and more comparable system to the iMac, though it does cost more.

The new shape iMacs are incredibly nice. I have the older one, and I'm very envious of the new aluminium case/glass screen design - I missed it by three months and needed a machine RIGHT NOW. The better chipset doesn't bother me so much, as I'll have that in my MacBook Pro.

At the $2400 mark, you get adequate graphics for games or 3D work. Yet, my local white-box reseller provides quad-core Intel, 8600GT and 2 GB RAM + monitor for about $1200.

So I could buy one of these things, or I could buy an Apple. Neither one contains terribly great machinery for the money, they both just look nice.

For my money the Apple looks better - brush metal always turns me on.

The Dell system is also a 720P HD TV and DVR. While you can't play hardcore PC games on it, the 6550 dual core processor, 2gb memory, and 500GB HDD can handle any type of PC task for 90% of the all-in-one pc users.

...that thread became a PC vs. Apple rant!

...they'll be discussing an article on hermaphroditic fish that can survive out of water, and even *that* will eventually decend into an Apple vs PC rant.

It hasn't yet, but keep watching. It's like Godwin's law, it will happen eventually.

... for my typos and p-poor speeling. My last comment hurts even my eyes.