By Alastair DoddPosted Friday 11th January 2008 12:53 GMT
"Microsoft's multi-touch finger-controlled UI that sports some rather iPhone-like gesture controls..."
gestures have been around for ages. the iphone and apple DID NOT INVENT multitouch controls FFS. Stop promoting the hype, what you are saying there is like Claiming Logitech invented the mouse!
Is this the video where the guy sticks a camera and another device on the table top and moves pictures between them by "flinging" them across the tabletop?
compared to the other demos they gave of surface (and the touchlight-thingy of microsoft research that preceded it)...
maybe someone should have spent more than 5min at introducing bill to the device?
btw. it does not matter how hard you press. they generate a depth image of the surface (using 4 cams) and recognize if something is near enough to touch it...
Not bad but it's only scratching the surface. Touch interfaces will see huge progress in the next year alone. I really doubt MS will do much groundbreaking here, apple are already running with the ball and google are set to throw out cash prizes for innovative software so I recon MS may have a few good ideas but aren't going to get recognised as 'the inventor of the touchscreen'.
Another area which I expect will see some development this year is gesture recognition, with just about every media device having a camera it's an area which is wide open and needs no extra hardware.
BTW, I have a touchscreen on a laptop and from what I've tried so far it looks like KDE4 will get a lot of attention in this area.
By Sean BaggaleyPosted Friday 11th January 2008 14:30 GMT
"gestures have been around for ages. the iphone and apple DID NOT INVENT multitouch controls FFS."
Nobody is claiming they did. However, Apple *are* the first to bring this particular combination of technologies to the market successfully. This is all Apple, Microsoft (and, yes, even Logitech) do: bring *existing* ivory-tower technologies and blue-sky thinking to the market and see what floats the public's boat. Apple don't tend to claim they invented this stuff; the (relatively ignorant) mass media do that. If the public are willing to believe the misinformation, that's their problem. Not Apple's.
Apple's focus is on design and ergonomics and their current corporate structure strengthens this by ensuring there is always a single, coherent design philosophy across the company.
Microsoft's core competencies are developer tools and developer technologies. Visual Studio is second to none as a result, but it has led to a lack of consistency as each department within MS follows its own path. (Neither Gates nor Ballmer have any kind of track record when it comes to product design.)
Until some years ago, good design usually meant charging a hefty premium. (Just ask Bang & Olufsen!) Advances in manufacturing have lowered the costs of both industrial and interface design, thus making them commodities like the technologies they are used to synthesize.
Microsoft do have usability labs, but they lack a single, consistent design vision. They really do need to address this, or they will end up fighting a losing battle with the GNU/FOSS movements. Linux, like OS X, may be a throwback to the 1970s, but 99% of users care about interfaces, not the technology.
By Giles JonesPosted Friday 11th January 2008 16:03 GMT
If the iPhone was released after the Surface computer, show me where I can buy a Surface computer today? what's that? nowhere for sale? of course not, it's just an R&D toy.
R&D is one thing, actually perfecting the product and managing to make it into a saleable product is another thing.
By Richard CartledgePosted Friday 11th January 2008 18:31 GMT
10 years ago, it would be OMG that is so cool, but what's the point? who wants something so frustratingly laggy and where you have to flail your arms and hands about instead of making small wrist movements with a mouse? We will within a month or two, see yet another stage in this technology's advancement and it will be in popular consumer products made by Apple.
By David SimpsonPosted Friday 11th January 2008 19:16 GMT
Seen the first Surface demo 6 months ago, looked interesting.
Although having used the iPhone I think someone needs to think of a smear free screen quick, I don't fancy having to clean a 20" screen every 5 mins because i have to rub my finger tips over it to use it!
If Apple do indeed launch new laptops with multi-touch pads on the keyboard/mouse/touchpad then I think I'll invest in that first, It will help my RSI to be able to use both hands equally and save me on screen cleaning wipes.
‘Microsoft demos Surface multi-touch user interface’ #
By Ron HughesPosted Friday 11th January 2008 19:53 GMT
By Anonymous CowardPosted Saturday 12th January 2008 01:04 GMT
I love it when uninformed dicks try to hide their lack of knowledge by going "OMG what a crock, <object name> || <concept name> has been around of years and years!"
Oh and on a technical note, the surface CANNOT recognise devices placed on it. it can ONLY recognise micro-dot codes placed on the device's shell. So don't expect to buy a surface (ha!) and just plonk your bluetooth capable phone on the thing.
Maybe they'll start a Surfaces-for-Sure program to identify compatible devices, only to then 2 years later change the micro-dot coding format to a pattern which only Microsoft devices have.
Comments on: Microsoft demos Surface multi-touch user interface
Can't see this video? Download the player from Adobe.com #
By Alexander Hanff Posted Friday 11th January 2008 12:48 GMT
ARRGH #
By Alastair Dodd Posted Friday 11th January 2008 12:53 GMT
Seen it. #
By Ash Posted Friday 11th January 2008 13:11 GMT
Touch screen looks bad #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 11th January 2008 13:48 GMT
Bill messed up #
By tom Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:03 GMT
Bill doesn't ride #
By Paul Saleh Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:05 GMT
oh, lame #
By foo Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:10 GMT
Of course this has nothing to do with... #
By Karl Lattimer Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:11 GMT
Only the begining #
By Stan Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:15 GMT
Surface came first #
By Jamie Edwards Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:25 GMT
This is not new, nor is it an iPhone ripoff #
By Paul Charters Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:28 GMT
The Interface Is God. #
By Sean Baggaley Posted Friday 11th January 2008 14:30 GMT
duh #
By DeFex Posted Friday 11th January 2008 15:28 GMT
Re: Surface came first #
By Giles Jones Posted Friday 11th January 2008 16:03 GMT
Best thing Bill said #
By Robert Moore Posted Friday 11th January 2008 16:29 GMT
What a joke! #
By Richard Cartledge Posted Friday 11th January 2008 18:31 GMT
EGHH! Dirty Screen ! #
By David Simpson Posted Friday 11th January 2008 19:16 GMT
‘Microsoft demos Surface multi-touch user interface’ #
By Ron Hughes Posted Friday 11th January 2008 19:53 GMT
Someone at Microsoft R&D rides a snowboard? #
By Tom Reg Posted Friday 11th January 2008 21:56 GMT
classic... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Saturday 12th January 2008 01:04 GMT
MIcrosoft are building the future . . . #
By sleepy Posted Sunday 13th January 2008 21:49 GMT