It seems like every week we see an article about the latest model, sometimes before the current model has even been released (here in Aus)
Do they want people to keep putting off buying these things forever?
On top of that I thought the whole point of the eePC was that it is small and cheap. It still seems reasonably small but it's no longer cheap. As others have posted beforehand, you can get a "proper' laptop that is not a lot bigger for not much more with much better specs.
By Steven HewitttPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:14 GMT
There's nothing compelling about this line up now. The 701 was great, but to be honest with HP, Dell and the other big boys joining in with a better supply chain then Asus shouldn't have bothered really.
£320 ex VAT and other taxes is the base price - so really it's about £400 all together.
That gets you a 1.6Ghz, 2Gb RAM and a 80Gb HD.
A £400 Dell Inspiron has a Core 2 Duo T5550 (1.83 GHz), 2Gb RAM, 120Gb HD, 15.4" XVGA screen, a DVD-RW drive and Vista HP.
In comparison, where's the advantage of these new EeePC other than paying more and losing peformance for a slightly thinner/smaller lappy...?
By Peter GathercolePosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:09 GMT
I don't know. These bigger EeePCs just do not look right after the 701. I wish that they had produced a model with a screen with more pixels, without the bezel, but in the same case.
I can cope very well with the keyboard on a 701, but the screen just does not have enough space, even for some of the default menus.
hmm...now getting to £350+...hmm, are they not creeping a little too near other small notebook producers? and can they compete with the bigger boys? and will they keep the 7 incher? hmmm. ponder, ponder....
Not bad ... pity the HSDPA is still not in the production version yet #
By RichardPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:35 GMT
This range makes the 900 "misstep" look like a product filler and hopefully means that the 900 will no longer be produced and allow for these better versions to be ramped up in production.
I think my 701 will be retired to the car (with case mods and touchscreen added) and a 901 linux taking its place.
The 1000/1000H looks like a good standard laptop but easier to transport ... so ought to grab some market from the "£339" 15 inch Celeron monsters out there at the bottom end.
There is a still a place for a real cheap lappy though below £200 and maybe even something with the original slopping design which is rather good to use (apart from the top heavy issue of the 70x 8-) ... so, ASUS how about an upgrade to a 702 with a Diamondville for £199 ??
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:57 GMT
> You'll note that the Linux model is more expensive, but that's undoubtedly a result of all that solid-state storage and its cost relative to hard disks.
It's also certain to be a result of MS's recent massaging of Asus. Just to make sure that the non-techies (who I'd say are less likely to appreciate an SSD) will go for the XP machine. "What? Less money, twice the storage?"
But what kind of SSD is that supposed to be anyway? Last I looked (yesterday) 16GB SSDs cost between £150 and £450 or so, depending on speed, 32 GB £350 and more.
S'funny, when I first started writing the truth about craptops in these comments how many "Wow, fantasmagorical...super" comments about supposedly how great craptops are. Now you've all woken up at last and are the job for me [although some of you still need to actually look at the 701 and see it]
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 12:38 GMT
"A £400 Dell Inspiron has a Core 2 Duo T5550 (1.83 GHz), 2Gb RAM, 120Gb HD, 15.4" XVGA screen, a DVD-RW drive and Vista HP.
In comparison, where's the advantage of these new EeePC other than paying more and losing peformance for a slightly thinner/smaller lappy...?"
I think you answered your own question - "Vista HP" - I'm sure microsoft are paying manufacturers to load that shite on computers, so that Dell would cost at least £470 with XP on it!!!
By Phil EndecottPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 13:22 GMT
My desktop Linux box has only 4GB of flash and that's plenty. This 40 GB SSD must be rather expensive, and is unnecessary: what on earth would you use it for? This whole EEE thing has been a case of constantly getting closer and closer to what I want, but never quite hitting the right spot.
Im going to just stick with my x60s. Its perfect for every thing I do and after sitting with the EEEPc for 30 mins I have to say the size was just annoying. Sure its ultra portable but for my needs so is the x60s. You have to love the prices of these EEEPc's though..
By Mark RendlePosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 15:46 GMT
b,
Almost certainly. The real, non-conspiracy reason why the Linux box costs more is that they've managed to source 40Gb SSDs for only a little more than the cost of a Windows XP licence + 80Gb HDD. If you've got an XP licence lying around you'll be able to install it on the Linux model.
By DirkGentlyPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 16:14 GMT
Because Microsoft are extending support for XP Home for another 2 years (IIRC), just for UMPCs. The reason they chose Home rather than Pro? Probably because they want people to eventually move to Vista as a better product - that's not the case with XP Pro. XP Pro runs reasonably well on my HP2133 mininote, so it'll probably run nicely on the Asus with its Atom CPU.
By Dick EmeryPosted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 18:26 GMT
The entire point of the original eeePC was to make a cheap and portable system that does not rely on a slow, power hungry and liable to knocks and bumps HDD PC. So that model is off my list for starters. We don't need HUGE amounts of space for this. Just a bigger screen! This would run fine on 8GB or less. I was looking forward to a version with similar specs to the 701 and a bigger screen with only a slight increase in the pricetag.
Coat because this seems all about cashing in rather than innovation.
The Asus ad portrays the user on the beach. If only one could. Can you see the screen and text to work in bright sunlight? With any of these small notebooks? Answers please.
By Charles ManningPosted Wednesday 4th June 2008 03:21 GMT
You just have to see x86 on the spec sheet to know that they are targetting Windows. Same with OLPC. As soon as that had x86 in it, then it was obvious that a Windows sell out would happen.
Linux runs fine on ARM. In fact there are more ARM Linux systems than x86 Linux systems (I'm counting phones as "systems" and for every Linux server there are ten or more Linux phones). From a technical point of view, ARM is the only sane choice for a Linux mini notebook. ARM-based systems use less battery power, are smaller, lighter and cheaper. All the attributes you want in a low cost sub notebook.
Anyone remember the Psion 7? That was a cute wee mini notebook that ran pretty well on a 100MHz ARM. The modern 600+MHz ARM parts would give it a lot more grunt.
Comments on: Asus announces 10in, HDD-equipped Eee PC
Looks good, #
By alistair millington Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:00 GMT
Don't forget.... #
By Richie M Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:04 GMT
Uh #
By Goat Jam Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:06 GMT
I bet MS require the specs to be different #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:08 GMT
Asus have lost the edge #
By Steven Hewittt Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:14 GMT
Is this a first? #
By Stuart Harrison Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:28 GMT
Bring back the Golden Age of the Cheap EEE! #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:57 GMT
Nice... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 10:58 GMT
Wot no EEE girl? #
By A. Lewis Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:03 GMT
Does anyone else think... #
By Tony Chandler Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:05 GMT
Something not right #
By Peter Gathercole Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:09 GMT
Boldly going... #
By Jack Harrer Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:25 GMT
Big Boots? #
By richard Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:28 GMT
Not bad ... pity the HSDPA is still not in the production version yet #
By Richard Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:35 GMT
Asus 10 incher? #
By David Hixson-Ward Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:36 GMT
think you misssed something... #
By Gordon Matson Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:49 GMT
Linux model more expensive #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 11:57 GMT
How could you? #
By David Viner Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 12:09 GMT
I told you so #
By Michael Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 12:38 GMT
@Steven Hewittt #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 12:38 GMT
Too much (expensive) flash #
By Phil Endecott Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 13:22 GMT
I love my IBM x60s #
By Crypty Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 14:03 GMT
EXCELLENT! #
By b Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 14:12 GMT
Turbo button #
By Owen Williams Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 14:57 GMT
Oh dear #
By KenBW2 Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 15:13 GMT
Re: EXCELLENT #
By Mark Rendle Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 15:46 GMT
Why XP Home? #
By DirkGently Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 16:14 GMT
Why HDD? #
By Dick Emery Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 18:26 GMT
Sub notebooks in the sun??? #
By Tony Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 20:28 GMT
Why HDD ... #
By Jason Bloomberg Posted Tuesday 3rd June 2008 22:38 GMT
Resourcing for Windows #
By Charles Manning Posted Wednesday 4th June 2008 03:21 GMT