By Ross FlemingPosted Friday 27th June 2008 23:02 GMT
I'll probably give it a go, but currently Nero, WMP and a couple of open sauce apps manage just fine at streaming to my PS3 - aside from YouTube (I think I'll cope with the absence), what's the appeal to switch?
Hmm, another one to join the UPnP selection - WMP is a bit sucky and TVersity is currently the best, but I'm interested in seeing if Google will allow Youtube streaming to xbox360 - could be interesting.
By Nexox EnigmaPosted Friday 27th June 2008 23:41 GMT
None of the others have 'Google' in the name, silly! Thats why this version is so much better...
Seems that since it only runs on Windows... it's actually quite a lot less useful than some of those 'open sauce' apps out there, though I haven't exactly found one that I really like yet.
By Phil HarePosted Saturday 28th June 2008 00:05 GMT
...I've been watching YouTube videos on my PS3 for quite a while now via the PS3's built in browser; I think Sony updated it to handle them at around firmware 2.0. It even opens them in a full screen window if you ask it to.
Add that to upgrading the internal HDD to a 320GB device (there are instructions on the web, it's safe and simple to do) and I see exactly no point in this offering from Google. Music, Video and Photos can all be stored on the PS3 itself or on any wireless NAS running UPnP software (which is most of them) and accessed via the PS3.
The only advantage that Google's offering may have is that the PS3 doesn't handle YouTube playlists (yet).
By Tammer SalemPosted Saturday 28th June 2008 09:11 GMT
When i first came across this article I thought "great"! Google has finally done a built in PS3 app to view you tube content. And wouldn't it be great if it had some kind of upscaling? Minutes later, I realise that they've added themselves to an already exhaustive list of upnp software. Hardly news shattering stuff.
btw TVersity is definitely the best windoze upnp software. My preference is media tomb on Ubuntu.
By FilippoPosted Saturday 28th June 2008 09:57 GMT
I too have been watching YouTube on my PS3 for a long time via the browser. As for streaming generic media, there are plenty of programs that do that (even WMP). I don't see the point of this.
By Tim LakePosted Saturday 28th June 2008 10:08 GMT
The hard drive upgrade on a PS3 is actually documented in the manual that comes with the console so there is no question about it being any kind of hack, I agree too that we can already watch YouTube through the PS3 browser and WMP can handle any media sharing you might want anyway. That's only Windows but so is this!
In the real world there are two candidates for the job Mediatomb and Twonkyvision. Twonky seems to work OK except it doesn't do transcoding which means the ultra picky PS3 will not play the vast majority of movies including some h264 jobbies. Twokyvision will also kill your network if you have it scanning large directories (even on a tiny 320GB drive).
Mediatomb will use VLC to transcode on the fly to a suitable format. So they say. To set it up, especially to install it on a NAS is erm quite fiddly.
I'm happy enough with my XBMC on an XBox for the moment but without doubt PS3 and HDMI is the better solution, just not quite yet. This google thingy may be the solution but until it transcodes and runs on linux/osX it won't be a killer solution. Still it does give Google Desktop a reason to exist.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Sunday 29th June 2008 06:30 GMT
I seem to have been doing this with no software other than Windows Vista ... why release software for something that is already built into an OS and works fine ...
UPnP goes nowhere near my network. Somehow I have an issue with a system that can open up holes in my network without my knowledge.
Other than that, it's a shame it's on Google Desktop. Huge resource hog and despite trying it a few times thinking it's a neat idea, I've really never had any use for it that justifies the resource hogging. The gadget novelty wears off very quick too (makes me wonder what Mac fans love about their gadget stuff or is it just more eye candy without a purpose).
By Andy WorthPosted Monday 30th June 2008 07:26 GMT
Sean, as a couple of others have mentioned, if you want a good media server (free) for your PC, try TVersity. It does transcoding and I've not had any issues with it murdering the network.
For others, it also works much better for general browsing as it properly supports the standards for media servers (I cannot remember what it is called - I think it is DNLA) whereas Windows Media Player for example, does not. Personally I found that this caused WMP to crash itself when I was trying to browse files and access file properties (and thumbnails) through the PS3.
It may be that this Google tool offers some additional functionality but then I personally find that Youtube videos are such poor quality on a HDTV that I prefer to just watch them on my laptop. Besides which, I'll never install Google Desktop as long as I still have control of my limbs.
By Simon SaysPosted Monday 30th June 2008 07:27 GMT
My preference for streaming from PC to PS3 is TVersity as it is free, regularly updated to keep up with PS3 firmware updates and it also does transcoding for the filetypes that the PS3 sticks its nose up at. On the face of it there doesn't seem to be anything particularly special about this Google version. Heck even Windows Media Player includes a DLNA server (albeit without transcoding).
By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 30th June 2008 09:46 GMT
To agree with a few others, WHY???
I guess it's in keeping with the Google tradition of doing stuff that others already do but really, there's a browser on the PS3, you can watch YouTube on it. So unless this will be a integrated app with it's own indexing /playlists/faves type thing then I don't see the point. That I'd be reasonably pleased about, as the browser is a pain to use really.
By Alistair MacRaePosted Monday 30th June 2008 13:27 GMT
It constantly messes up on my xbox360, the PS3 is actually more reliable using WMP11 than the MS Xbox360!!
The most annoying thing is I when i got my xbox years ago, i converted all my videos to WMV format so the xbox could play them, and it never seems to be able to find the PC
Then I get my PS3 does it perfectly, but no decent WMV support!
By Simon SaysPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 07:28 GMT
What I meant was that they tend to update pretty quickly if a PS3 firmware update changes the streaming behaviour and/or causes issues with TVersity. There haven't been many major PS3 firmware updates this year and most of them seem to have been just stability tweaks for particular titles.
Comments on: Google plugs YouTube into Playstation 3
So... what's better? #
By Ross Fleming Posted Friday 27th June 2008 23:02 GMT
What's better? #
By Mectron Posted Friday 27th June 2008 23:15 GMT
UPnP Warz... #
By Nick Posted Friday 27th June 2008 23:21 GMT
Re: So... what's better? #
By Nexox Enigma Posted Friday 27th June 2008 23:41 GMT
Er... #
By Phil Hare Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 00:05 GMT
Stop the press? #
By Tammer Salem Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 09:11 GMT
Er... x2 #
By Filippo Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 09:57 GMT
To agree with Phil... #
By Tim Lake Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 10:08 GMT
@So... what's better? #
By Ron Eve Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 10:18 GMT
Winamps Orb #
By Daniel Bennett Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 11:21 GMT
Nice stab at the networks #
By ratfox Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 14:50 GMT
Simple solution #
By Jerome Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 16:21 GMT
Real world #
By Seán Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 17:57 GMT
But this is just a Google beta. #
By Tom Posted Saturday 28th June 2008 18:57 GMT
Strangely ... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Sunday 29th June 2008 06:30 GMT
Universal Plug and Pray #
By TimM Posted Sunday 29th June 2008 11:32 GMT
Re:Real world #
By Andy Worth Posted Monday 30th June 2008 07:26 GMT
TVersity #
By Simon Says Posted Monday 30th June 2008 07:27 GMT
@AC re: vista #
By Jiminy Krikett Posted Monday 30th June 2008 07:50 GMT
provide the sauce please ! #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 30th June 2008 08:32 GMT
Why? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 30th June 2008 09:46 GMT
Media Server #
By Mike Dyne Posted Monday 30th June 2008 09:59 GMT
@Simon Says #
By FlatSpot Posted Monday 30th June 2008 10:27 GMT
PS3 #
By Junait Chakman Posted Monday 30th June 2008 10:47 GMT
@TimM #
By Andraž Levstik Posted Monday 30th June 2008 11:06 GMT
Nero #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 30th June 2008 11:25 GMT
Ummm #
By John Robson Posted Monday 30th June 2008 11:31 GMT
UP YOURS XBOX 360!!! #
By Mark Posted Monday 30th June 2008 12:50 GMT
WMP11 media sharing sucks #
By Alistair MacRae Posted Monday 30th June 2008 13:27 GMT
@Flatspot #
By Simon Says Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 07:28 GMT