By Claus P. NielsenPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 09:36 GMT
Underage smokers should find comfort in the fact, that the more they smoke, the quicker they will age.
Heavy use of tanning booths (or just spending a lot of time in the sun) will also help develop those crucial wrinkles needed to fool the vending machine.
If all else fails (or if you are a 12-year old just starting your filthy smoking habit without older smoker friends to buy cigarettes for you), you can always try a little make-up.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:59 GMT
Don't most credit card companies require the account holder to be over 18 ?
If they don't, then the vending machine could insist on prior registration and an additional password specifically for sale of over-18 items, with a warning that a person who gives their password to an under-18 will be prosecuted for aiding and abetting.
Relying on a bank card as proof of age is also a shite system, all you would need to do is borrow a card off a sibling or buddy who is old enough to buy tabs, give them the cash, and away you go to make your purchase. It would be easier to bypass than the shoddy photo recognition system.
Why don't they move the machines to a place only 20+ people can go into, or even remove the machines altogether, that will stop the under age people buying them.
wtf? i meant use a bank card - not just show em it? <sigh> and if you are stupid enough to lend someone your bank card and pin then you deserve what you get!
of course this would also help with people buying stuff online too!
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:35 GMT
and in recent news (at least in this country).
From the good old Daily Mail: How High Street bank Lloyds TSB dishes out debit cards to children as young as 11 - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1030347/Revealed-How-High-Street-bank-Lloyds-TSB-dishes-debit-cards-children-young-11.html
Now I can go to Japan without fear of being harassed by those menacing youths with smokes and can be free to buy soiled panties and beer from the other vending machines.
I know you're just joking, but please, don't even suggest it. As an adult who can still hear high-pitched sounds that most people can't, I can tell you it's not just annoying, it's actually painful. That's my problem with those devices -- assaulting (even if only aurally) one section of the populace to keep away another section of the populace should never be allowed (especially when there are already laws to "protect" you).
By Marco AlfarrobinhaPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 17:37 GMT
Street machines (yes, they are on the street, and no, no yobs try to break them down) in Germany can only sell if you insert an authorised debit/credit card and from what I hear, the system actually works.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 18:11 GMT
thats not news mate, natwest gave me a debit card 10 years ago shortly after my 11th birthday, i could even use it to buy knives off the internet. those were the days...
I remember seeing cigarette machines everywhere when I was a kid. My kids would have no idea what one was if they saw it. USA just did away with the machines altogether. Has there ever been 1 kid anywhere, anytime, that could not get a cig, if they wanted one? Restrictions only serve to teach work arounds. Educating the kids, make them watch grandpa die of cancer, that's what prevents kids starting smoking.
By Nexox EnigmaPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 18:18 GMT
If you're going to have 2 cameras, screw stereo, just get an IR image of the face. A magazine cut out won't have anywhere close to the same thermal image as a real face. Then again I have no idea how much an IR camera of high enough quality would cost.
By trackSuitPosted Tuesday 1st July 2008 19:23 GMT
This article left me with the impression that it is getting harder for children to buy and therefore smoke cigarettes.
In the city where I live, there seem to be more children and young adults smoking cigarettes than there were this time last last year.
I assume there is now a well developed black market for buying cigarettes. If that sounds cynical, then ask yourself what a cigarette company would do when faced with advertising restrictions. Would they put they feet up and sigh and contemplate halcyon days, or would they get busy developing new distribution and marketing routes / means?
Many smokers buy cigarettes duty-free in bulk or buy them from people who import them by means of an undeclared business.
When people buy cigarettes in bulk, it is less likely that the odd missing packet (or three) will be noticed as missing.
It only takes one child in a class of kids whose parents smoke heavily and who turn a blind eye to the regular disapperance of some of their packets of cigarettes. There is also no shortage of children who are given 'guilt money' by parents. Buying a packet of cigarettes is easy for a child who wanders around with 30 quid or more in their pocket.
And what of the high-tech vending machines? A clear conscience for the tobacco companies? No trouble from politicians? A smoke-screen [sic] for society who will see the machines and then not even wonder at the increase in the young smoking population?
This is not a rant though... and time will tell if I was right. Look for an increase in the number of young smokers, or a change to the way official statistics are processed.
Comments on: Photos fool cigarette age-verification software
How to fool the system #
By Claus P. Nielsen Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 09:36 GMT
Advanced? #
By Kevin Johnston Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:24 GMT
what a shite system anyway #
By Liam Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:42 GMT
@ Liam #
By David Williams Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:54 GMT
Alternative #
By Adam Foxton Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:58 GMT
Why not insist on payment by credit card? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 10:59 GMT
@Liam #
By glenn Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:00 GMT
Another Idea. #
By Tim Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:17 GMT
@ glenn #
By Liam Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:30 GMT
@everyone talking about using bank cards #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:35 GMT
Or just.... #
By Azz Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:35 GMT
at last. #
By Andrew Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 11:53 GMT
@Daivd Williams #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 12:08 GMT
What about #
By Steven Hunter Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 13:28 GMT
Smoking age of 20?! #
By Bryce Prewitt Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 13:51 GMT
re: Or just.... #
By Chris C Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 17:25 GMT
@ Liam #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 17:34 GMT
Bank cards.... #
By Marco Alfarrobinha Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 17:37 GMT
@ @everyone talking about using bank cards #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 18:11 GMT
Abstinance #
By David Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 18:15 GMT
Different Spectrum? #
By Nexox Enigma Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 18:18 GMT
Trade routes through smoke filled rooms #
By trackSuit Posted Tuesday 1st July 2008 19:23 GMT
@Kevin Johnston #
By Andreas Posted Wednesday 2nd July 2008 00:37 GMT
If they don't want to sell to kids... #
By Dr Patrick J R Harkin Posted Wednesday 2nd July 2008 07:46 GMT
Re: If they don't want to sell to kids... #
By Sarah Bee Posted Wednesday 2nd July 2008 08:45 GMT
@Dr Patrick J R Harkin #
By Andreas Posted Thursday 3rd July 2008 02:15 GMT