..but does it blend ?

Say what you like about Apple and Jobs, but thats one fine little chunk of technology.

Barely a millimetre of wasted space, efficient design, amazing what they pack in.

For the price of the thing and the contracts that O2 are flogging it with I'd at least expect a flash for my camera.

is the slot for my toast, and as for the hot cold running nubiles I see none of the usual receptacles.

Efros

Seriously, is there no flash on it?

I'm *genuinely* surprised by that.

Still, nice bit of PCB design there, very compact.

Steven R

but whats the point of a flash when it still doesn't have a decent camera?

or cut and paste

or multimedia messaging

or landscape keyboard

or streaming bluetooth audio

or voice dialling

or ability to use as a modem

or a to-do list

So overall still an expensive POS - go mad for it sheeple!

"Barely a millimetre of wasted space, efficient design, amazing what they pack in."

It's nothing special, look inside any mobile phone and you'll see the same thing. Sony Ericsson phones are usually a good example of clever layout and design of the internals.

Anyone taking bets on how long it will take until the first vulnerability proof of concept is published?

I own an apple, and I use it to pwn yours!

13pp4rd h4x0r5

"but whats the point of a flash when it still doesn't have a decent camera?"

There is that, but then I was expecting a lot more abuse from the Mac f@nboyz, but then it's not as though Mac products are only useful for graphics or anything is it so you wouldn't need a camera would you?

I think this machine should be disassembled period. It is a piece of junk. I probably would have just thrown it on the floor to open it though ;)

I agree, a flash would be great.. and by flash I mean flash, like on the K800i, not some silly white LED that pretends to do n anything worth while... but that kinda flash eats battery ( I think) and while in the UK n possibly Europe we like to MMS, its not so widespread in the US ( I think) and this IS a US centric device, that has been slightly upgraded for a wider market.. maybe iPhone G3 (rather than 3G!) will have one??

But as per title, the lack of flash (and not the other flash) misses the point, the camera is really just a 'cos we have to', the iPhone is a 'communications' device, rather than a phone, its not even a smart phone, its a hand held 'mu-mac' <--( i'll trade mark it now!) which like it or not is changing the mobile communications market, for the better.

Its not perfect, but then nothing IS perfect and it may not be your 'cup of tea' but despite lacking all the thing AC listed.. its still a LOT better than any other communications convergence device that I've used.. and I've used quite a few.

I'll be very happy with mine.. once it finally arrives.. and thats another story all together!

Heh .. macs arent just about graphics apps ... I'm a java coder and there is nothing that would persuade me to go back to wintel after using a macbook pro for 6 months.

For the most part they are stable, have a decent shell, and they 'just work' ... in fact the are the complete antithesis of a doze box (unstable, useless shell, and require constant fiddling with a zillion dialog boxes to get them to do the simplest of things)

So the Cupertino Pirates , wankers and wowsers are at last acknowledging their first version design of the mark one was pure and utter crap that should not have escaped from the drawing board but was carelessly rushed into production unlike some of the more recent Chinese clone variants !

I love it , but would not touch one even if offered for free on a pre paid contract plan due to to many other hidden from sight strings attached !

As Nelson would say "Ha ! Ha!" !

Does anyone remember when a mobile phone was exactly that? it was only 9 yeara ago.

It really does amuse me watching the desktop environment wars transferred to what is, in truth, still rather a mundane device.

It is laughable to see people lining up (one of my colleagues among them who paid up for mark one) to pay up to 160 quid plus a minimum of 35 a month for a device with a reflective metal back and a touch screen that is locked to a specific company and will only work with their software or that which is approved by them, even MS weren't so stupid to retain this policy for Windows Mobile.

Remember people, its only a phone after all and by buying it you are contributing to the fortune of a guy who is already absurdly wealthy and that £75/month contract you just signed for a 'free' iphone will haunt you long after you get bored with the device.

Have Sun got the JVM working properly on Macs now then? Last time I tried to use it for testing my code the JVM would fall over continuously, unlike a Linux or Windows box. Safari seemed to have an inbuild inability to cope with the Javascript commands calling the VM and would collapse like the flimsy and pointless but ultimately pretty thing that it is.

Missed a very important one - A working SIP client.

So regardless of how much the iPhone 3G is advertised it looks like I am going to buy a Nokia N78 instead (it will be upgrade time around the end of the summer). I can actually use it as a proper SIP handset in the house.