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Comments on: Sensitive Wii maker snubs developers

Bit of pedancy 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 16:04 GMT

The Wii Remote does the IR receiving with an IR camera.

The bar contains two LED IR transmitters.

It's not a second accellerometer 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 16:29 GMT

it's a multi-axis gyroscope.

http://kotaku.com/5025650/how-exactly-does-the-wiis-motionplus-work

Re: Bit of pedancy 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:05 GMT

Coat

Actually that should be "Bit of pedantry".

More pedancy 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:09 GMT

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It's not "more sensitive" it's just got a wider range of operations.

And now if they can sort out the (admittedly minute. But still annoying) lag between the Wiimote's IR sensor and real life things will really get better!

Not surprising... 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:41 GMT

Paris Hilton

Nintendo have always been very nasty towards third-party developers. They made a big fuss about being "third party" friendly when the Wii was released, and cried their eyes out that developers and publishers weren't spending big budgets on games for the console.

What were they expecting? Kisses and group hugs? Not after some of the stuff that they've pulled over the last decade, and this is another example of exactly how Nintendo feel about third party developers. They don't want or like them. As long as they're not making games for other consoles, Nintendo are happy and will willfully abuse the fact that they are the primary competition on their own platform.

But really, this is nothing compared to the absolute doozy that Nintendo pulled on developers and publishers roughly two years ago. Even I was amazed at the depths they went to back then.

Re: Re: Bit of pedancy 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:47 GMT

Coat

Actually if you examine <obscure source>, 'pedantry' was an import to the language from <foreign language>, circa <date>. It could be argued that 'pedancy' (or even 'pedanisticism') is the more <authentic, native or correct> term.

@AC re. Gyroscope 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:47 GMT

Unhappy

Looking at the link you provided........

"...integration of MEMS and CMOS structures at the wafer level with a proprietary bonding technology resulting in several thousand gyroscopes simultaneously produced on a single wafer."

I very much doubt that they have produced several thousand small devices that consist of rotating masses. They've probably produced strain gauge based multi-axis accelerometers that are now accurate enough to replace the traditional gyroscope in some less demanding applications. So they call them 'gyroscopes' because the marketing people don't know the difference. The client buyers don't know the difference either and it costs lots of money to change the brochures.

Wii lag 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:49 GMT

Coat

Around here thats known as stage fright. Mines the one with the yellow stains in front.

Pedancy ? 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 17:56 GMT

"Pedantry", surely.

I wouldn't have said anything, but you beat me to the correcting the transmitter/receiver error, so thrrrrpp ! ;)

that article link is a whiner. 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 19:06 GMT

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"oh, woe is me! my console is now obsolete!" bah!

you needed an add on to play the classic download games. So you need an add on (or hopefully a newly available upgraded controller) to take advantage of new features. What;s the big deal? the console doesn't need replacing.

This is like whining about having to upgrade a hard drive. Big deal. The only whining I can see justified is that, well, I don't want another bit of crap hanging off my wiimote. Let's make a version 2.0 wiimote available with the new accuracy imbedded in the standard length chassis, so it fits my PerfectShot, wii wheel, and soon-to-be-acquired lightsaber. :)

I don't see how this is Nintendo snubbing developers. 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 20:01 GMT

The MotionPlus device is being released in spring 2009 when they release it with the Wii Sports sequel, giving developers roughly 8 months to include it in their games.

Re: Re: Re: Bit of pedancy 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 20:37 GMT

Ah the tiresome whine of the pedants. Really, you might as well wear a sign saying "insecure social inadequate" and have done with it.

Good on Nintendo, by the way.

not really an issue 

Posted Wednesday 16th July 2008 21:18 GMT

Heart

This is really a non-issue. Nintendo gamers have already had to buy the nunchuck addon alongside the WiiMotes for a lot of games - and those are pricey. This , i doubt,

will be any more cash.

And anyway, most Nintendo gamers will probably rush out to buy Sports Resort which

will come with the required add-on gyroscope extension anyway. moot point me thinks.

At end of day, this sort of controller requirement is fully workable; you don't see too many complaints about having to buy the guitar for GH, the mics for singing games etc - and whilst the wiimote can be used for other 'board' games - the real board (as used in WiiFit) brings a far more rewarding experience. I , for one, will prefer the advanced experience with this dongle than play the games with basic. This aspect is the annoying one - the current games would also be improved if they could use this new better sensor too (I'd even go out to buy Red Steel at Lego Star Wars - they suck with the current WiiMote only!)

This whole thread... 

Posted Thursday 17th July 2008 00:17 GMT

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...is totally pedantacious.

@David 

Posted Thursday 17th July 2008 01:17 GMT

actually it's Wierniki

WiiFit 

Posted Thursday 17th July 2008 09:56 GMT

Stop

Go do some proper exercise you sad fucks!

@AC 

Posted Thursday 17th July 2008 10:39 GMT

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"But really, this is nothing compared to the absolute doozy that Nintendo pulled on developers and publishers roughly two years ago. Even I was amazed at the depths they went to back then."

Nothing like Sony's concentration on first party development then. Sony are the Nintendo of yesterday, not ones to learn from other people's mistakes - instead they decide to simply copy them.

@Frank 

Posted Thursday 17th July 2008 10:52 GMT

http://www.invensense.com/products/idg_600.html

That's the chip they use, complete with data sheets.