By WonderkidPosted Monday 21st July 2008 12:53 GMT
I own a 701 EEE PC (4G, 7" screen) running Linux, and with the exception of Firefox that now locks up daily as I'm running out of memory, the machine is extremely reliable - way more so than any Mac or PC I have ever owned, so ASUS deserve this success. All said, if Apple could shove OS X into something with the same form factor with an SSD drive, I would happily spend £500 on it. Until then, a black EEE PC 901 is on the radar. (BTW, I am driving my wide screen Philips 200XW 22" monitor from my EEE PC at 1600 x 1200 resolution! Neither devices are supposed to support that and yet are working just fine. Not bad for £350 worth of hardware in total!)
By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 21st July 2008 13:25 GMT
1. Who hasn't got a 1080p telly these days?
2. Who, therefore, needs a monitor, or speakers?
3. Why, therefore, (if they really want to make one cheap,) don't they just completely bin d-type, dvi, audio out, and route the whole thing through an hdmi cable?
Yet, look for a cheap and quiet computer that does this. Where are they? I know I can build one myself, but it's not like they're all over the place is it?
What on earth has this got to do with MS? Nothing is what.
My EeePC survived with its Linux distribution for about 3 days. After that I decided that I could no longer put up with the pain, and I needed to install an OS that was actually useful. One XP install later and all is good.
My point is though, what the we need is more of these type of devices with the flexibility to use them as WE want to use them. Not as someone else thinks we SHOULD want to.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 21st July 2008 16:40 GMT
Thanks for that, I was wondering if I was the only person without one!
Done some more digging since and it appears that exactly 0% of my HD-weilding friends actually have true 1080p HD. One guy who described himself as 'pissed off- this HD thing's crap, innit' turned out to have a 40-or-so" 1024x768 screen! Thought it was a bit odd he'd paid so little for an HDTV
HD really is an overused term!
Oh, and the eeePC rocks. Got one, don't know how I did without it- light, compact, it can be leg mounted (with a small strap and wrist-mounted 3.5" VGA touchscreen monitor- which is just awesome :P) so I can take it to the shops without having to wear a backpack or forgo the use of a computer (sometimes being computerless is just impractical, you know?). And on the original OS even my elderly grandmother and technophone mother were able to use it. And mum has trouble using the on/off button on the TV without instruction...
..and the majority of them are for the Linux version. This along with Dells and business, military, government, education etc Linux adoption leads me to suspect that the 'less than one percent of the market' Linux figures are pure bollocks (and thats not counting servers BTW). When will one of these highly paid statistical analysts give up calculating likelihood of wining the lottery if you take 2 sugars in your tea (or whatever) to work out what the real figure is?
Anyway, rant over... fair play asus, good sales from a deservedly good reputation.
What this shows is that cheap devices sell, even without windows, which many (including me even though I am a linux fan) have thought to be a problem for mass sales.
It also shows that Vista was a mistake, in many ways - but especially including the expensive hardware requirement.
Sorry you didn't give your Linux eee much of a chance, but I bet over 95% of 701s are still running Linux.
When you get bunged up with viruses or the workload of antvirus software, give it another chance. I'm sure you still have the restore CD!
"My EeePC survived with its Linux distribution for about 3 days. After that I decided that I could no longer put up with the pain, and I needed to install an OS that was actually useful. One XP install later and all is good."
Maybe (and I hope you paid for that XP), but I guess the REAL reason, in contrast with the rationalization, is another. Let me fix that for you: "After that I was so ashamed of not being able to use a system even an undernourished African child could learn that I decided to install an OS that would give me the good old Pavlovian drool response. One XP install later and all is good." There, you're welcome.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 00:30 GMT
And yes the 1% figure is ancient - last I saw it was 5% a few years back.
Roll in a few countries outside of the UK and USA and the adoption figures are higher.
The problem is the 'one eyed windows lad', they find it hard to make the shift, primarily because what they have learned is not that transferable (power cycling). It takes quite a few years to be good on a Linux system, though only an hour or so for the average user to be happily computing along.
By A M StreetPosted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 07:44 GMT
@Paul R.
Well! to quote Abraham Lincoln "You can fool some of the people all of the time"
I thought that the idea of the Eee was to be cheap but by putting XP on it you have managed to inflate the price by about 25% to 30%.
Can't handle Linux? My six year old nephew took to it like a duck to water, still I suppose the older you get the more inflexible and resistant to change you become.
spegru is right, after all the money spent in vain to protect your Eee you might like to try Linux again, after all what do you want to do with it, use Photoshop or Autocad?
By Gwyn Kemp-PhilpPosted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 08:36 GMT
1. Who hasn't got a 1080p telly these days?
Well, me for one!
As the picture quality of television continues to improve so the quality of things to watch continues to deteriorate.
Lately, I have settled for just watching the ten o'clock news. End of!
My last-century 28" CRT does just fine for that and when it breaks, I will save the cost of a TV licence rather than buy a new HDTV. I expect the cost of both will be about the same.
By A. LewisPosted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 12:16 GMT
With the sentiments expressed by other posters. I don't see why you would install XP on your EEE unless you had specific apps to run. If that is the case, why did you buy a linux laptop? I've yet to see any common task the EEE (with its stock OS) can't do, and do well.
Admittedly I replaced the stock OS on mine with ubuntu, but that's because I'm a fiddler and like changing things for the sake of it. I do intend to go back to the slightly more performant Xandros though.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 23rd July 2008 07:07 GMT
Novel idea: dinky hardware, low-cost, linux distro, no MS$... quadruple appeal... add in its easy to use, easy to change/modify (other distros and/or say KDE on Xandros), so who cares if XP is chucked on it... it is shipped with linux.
Now maybe that might be the tipping point; past:ship kit with MS$ might consider change to linux... future:ship with linux*, just maybe (or not) change to MS$-lite..."Clapham junction, all change here"?
Comments on: Asus Eee PC storms Euro PC maker chart
Good news! #
By A. Lewis Posted Monday 21st July 2008 12:28 GMT
Hello! Microsoft do you hear us now? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 21st July 2008 12:45 GMT
People vote with their wallets... #
By Wonderkid Posted Monday 21st July 2008 12:53 GMT
what I don't understand is... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 21st July 2008 13:25 GMT
@AC #
By Paul R Posted Monday 21st July 2008 13:51 GMT
1. Who hasn't got a 1080p telly these days? #
By Mage Posted Monday 21st July 2008 14:08 GMT
Yeah, but #
By Laurent_Z Posted Monday 21st July 2008 16:04 GMT
@Mage #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 21st July 2008 16:40 GMT
Thats a lot of sales.. #
By Stan Posted Monday 21st July 2008 16:53 GMT
@Paul R #
By spegru Posted Monday 21st July 2008 16:54 GMT
Is anybody using OpenBSD on it? #
By John Benson Posted Monday 21st July 2008 19:43 GMT
titititle #
By J Posted Monday 21st July 2008 22:43 GMT
Well done Asus and Linux #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 00:30 GMT
Apple small cheap laptop. #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 04:06 GMT
So #
By heystoopid Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 04:32 GMT
Lincoln was right #
By A M Street Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 07:44 GMT
HDTV? #
By Gwyn Kemp-Philp Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 08:36 GMT
How to wreck a great little machine. #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 08:59 GMT
I feel I should join in... #
By A. Lewis Posted Tuesday 22nd July 2008 12:16 GMT
Epiphany? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 23rd July 2008 07:07 GMT