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Comments on: Sub £200 mini laptop launched

I realy dont get the point... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:36 GMT

What is it for? It seems to well speced for just word processing and net browsing, but under speced for much else.

When one comes out that I can use to do a bit of word processing, a bit of web browsing and send a few emails, and costs less that £100 then I will have one, and I think many others will to.

Wouldn't touch it with a barge-pole 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:42 GMT

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Sounds well dodgy, kind of like those mysterious ipod knockoffs you see going at the market stalls and computer fairs.

128 meg memory?!?

Rather pay the extra £50 and get the Acer Aspire One (review please El Reg, quickly now).

One problem... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:45 GMT

Gates Horns

(Does not support Microsoft O/S)

Although that won't stop people on here I can't see it selling well to the general public...

CCL appear to be selling the same one 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:45 GMT

and a tenner cheaper as well.

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?id=24903#

CPU 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:47 GMT

The user manual specifies the CPU as "XBurst 400 MHz 32-bit CPU". This is a Chinese MIPS clone that has been used in other low-cost laptots.

The minibook appears to be identical to the 3K RazorBook (http://www.3kcomputers.com/shop/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=57) and the Bestlink Alpha 400 (http://www.bestlinkeshop.com/index.php?p=1&s=3529a7fa0b7142c6a538ae7cdc764feb&lang=en), so they are all probably rebadged versions of a Chinese laptop.

unspecified cpu?? 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:47 GMT

Linux

come on el reg, you could at least read the user manual,

http://www.ingenic.cn/eng/productServ/XBurst/pfCustomPage.aspx

Channels 12 & 13 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:56 GMT

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12 and 13 are only used in the UK and not usable with most non european kit. I don't generally use them for APs because of the problems with cheap imported laptops. It's 1, 6 and 11 all the way for me!

128mb of memory and 2gb of storage?! = what a MONSTER! 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:58 GMT

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ok, so not bad looking little fella, 7" is a bit small (missus!), 840x480 is a bit low..but 128mb of memory?!

2gb of STORAGE?!

ok, ok, i know external usb2 drives are peanuts these days (we ARE spoilt) and non microsoft products are seemingly devoid of the need to consume whatever is around, but i think we could have perhaps settled on 512mb, considering all that these baby laptops are expected to do and maybe 8-12gb of local storage i think would have sufficed.

anyways, the baby laptop thread:

http://www.eupeople.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=487

all welcome :)

cheers,

bill

available eslewhere 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 13:59 GMT

Unhappy

http://www.supergps.co.uk/silverstar-epc-swe700a1b0-white-linux-ultra-mobile-pc-p-3496.html

150 exc delivery and that's the normal price

Same as... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:01 GMT

This one's popped its head up a few times recently, and is basically the same as the Elonex ONEt and the Novatech Minibook (latter available now for £170 also). Sure I saw somewhere it wholesales for sub £100.

title 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:02 GMT

lovely, even tho the manufacturers mention the issue with wifi, maplin do not. not really buyer beware huh?

still, i might buy one, looks pretty snazzy......

is snazzy still an acceptable word? should i have used the shizzle, or shiznay or shnapple or somthing equally street?

Additional specification details 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:05 GMT

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Scan Computers appear to have it listed at £163.33 inc VAT - and describe it as having a 400MHz Xburst CPU:

http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=225532&source=1&DOY=30m7

for more info.

pikiWedia redirects searches on XBurst to the MIPS article.

400 mhz 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:07 GMT

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According to the manual it sports a "XBurst 400 MHz 32-bit CPU", which according to Google is common in crapola knock-offs like this and is probably less powerful than the one in your phone.

Pointless - EEE PC 701 costs the same now... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:08 GMT

Stop

...and has 4G of SSD and originates from a far more reputable company. My EEE PC 701 is the most reliable 'computer' I have ever owned. Other than when Firefox runs out of memory, it never crashes. I have seen them priced new as low as £175.

CPU info 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:08 GMT

Linux

The Product manual on the Maplin page reports the CPU as "XBurst 400 MHz 32-bit CPU". They're made by Ingenic, a Chinese semiconductor company, and are some sort of RISC architecture. It's not x86 compatible.

Novatech has them in stock 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:16 GMT

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?NOV-MINIBK

Woo for laptots! 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:19 GMT

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I noticed this one in maplin the other day. I don't think it looks as good as others, aesthetics-wise. Can't argue with that price though!

Still, I'll stick with my EEE.

The big question, of course, is: 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:27 GMT

Coat

will it run Crysis?

PS, it's about time we had a Crysis icon, methinks

"...unspecified Chinese firm..." 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:30 GMT

I'd want to know it's not being made under rough conditions before buying! Why isn't it possible to buy any electronic gear not made in a Communist dictatorship? I'd pay extra! But I guess you just can't beat those slave-labour prices...

CCL have a very similar looking laptop on their website 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 14:31 GMT

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The CCL laptop is only £159.99 too!

http://www.cclonline.com/product-info.asp?id=24903

Why not get a Nokia N810 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 15:01 GMT

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Almost the same internal specs but much smaller. Same screen resolution too!

Not new. 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 15:08 GMT

Stop

This is definitely not a new thing. The EPC-700 (not eeepc, mind you) in its many guises has been in stores for a while now, actually. My mother bought one - against my recommendation - from a toy store a few weeks back, and I had the pleasure of trying to fix it when WLAN didn't work right. In the end I "fixed" it by restarting our router, even though my own laptop had no issues at all. Still don't understand why it didn't work, but meh.

Either way, I strongly suggest not getting near this thing. The CPU (as Io McKinnon noticed) is a Chinese MIPS copy which means that it's a pain to do anything with it that doesn't come shipped. The software is a mess, the localization on my mother's machine is plain horrible (excellent case of sloppy/lacking Chinese->English), it doesn't have a non-root account, the software it does have is painfully outdated and the updating tool something that comes with it doesn't work until you download a fix.

The "Minibook" version (if it's any different at all) might have slightly fewer issues, but I rather doubt it. Would not buy again, so to say.

Re: One problem... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 15:19 GMT

Stop

I think you've got it wrong, the general public have been buying all sorts of small devices for years which don't run Windows, from the electronic organisers and PDAs 15 years ago, right through Psion, Blackberrys, Amstrad E-mailer to the modern day with smart phones etc. (Lets not forget macs). The general public don't care what a utility device runs so long as it does as advertised - browsing the internet, email and word processing.

Similar spec at Toys R Us 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 15:45 GMT

Or you could just save yourself a bundle and buy a laptop with a similar spec direct from Toys R Us. I belive there may be wireless connectivity issues with this model also.

http://www.toysrus.co.uk/Product.aspx/TruHome/TruLearning/TRULearningElectronic06/TRULearningElectronicLearningToys/036331?ref=Search

Not just online 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 15:58 GMT

I wandered into the local store by chance before reading El Reg, and they had some. My credit card started whimpering, and I had to leave.

Channel 12 and 13 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 16:05 GMT

I thought that the anyone with any sense uses channels 1, 6 and 11 - to avoid overlap. Why would anyone bother with 12 and 13 (unless they don't know better)?

@ Joe

>> I'd pay extra! But I guess you just can't beat those slave-labour

>> prices...

You would have to pay a lot extra, it wouldn't just be the cost of labour it would be all the costs associated with running multiple production plants, fabs, etc.. It isn't the sort of thing that can be done on a small scale. Ball park figures, I reckon the cost of running another plant with a much smaller output would probably quadruple the cost before you even paid an extra penny to the workers - triple that again if you wanted to please the green crowd too. Are you prepared to pay 12 times as much or more?

SO MANY PEOPLE THAT OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO IDEA ABOUT THE MARKET 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 16:09 GMT

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It seems many of you above have no understanding that this product fits the market. I recently purchased one and expected it to do simply Internet functions, word and spreadsheet style work and it does all of these.

There are many chinese suppliers of the product but CnM is a 14year + established distributor to the UK and Germany.

It seems to me the competition are not likeing the fact that someone has got to the market first with a low cost miniBOOK that actually looks damn good.

Nice work CnM!!

I notice it is being sold by maplin 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 16:28 GMT

Flame

who have from my 24 years of experience of looking at their wares (I am 40 and not 24 years old !) have found them to quite often sell over-priced stuff from companies no one has heard about, and when you get it home you find out why no one else has stocked it, because it's crap.

the only time stuff is worth buying from Maplin is when it is (well according to Maplin) "50% off!!" , and then it is the price you'd expect to pay elsewhere.

Me , I'll probably be getting an acer one.

Looks ugly... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 17:23 GMT

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Looks pretty ugly and cheap to me (Even though it is cheap). I can't really see this appealing to the masses to be honest.

Lack of support for Windows will also probably throw people off.

@AC, "SO MANY PEOPLE THAT OBVIOUSLY ..." etc 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 18:02 GMT

Coat

<cough>shill</cough>

Well stick a joypad on me and call me Pandora 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 19:11 GMT

Maybe these folks will finally stop punting vapourware

http://www.openpandora.org

I guess when a product is 12 months past its projected release date (and waiting) someone is going to beat you to it.

you can get it for about $120... 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 19:53 GMT

as the Impulse NXP-9000

http://www.alibaba.com/product-tp/101509462/World_s_Cheapest_Laptop.html?

Assuming that you but 100 or more of them...

It may even have a VGA output.

(Maybe it won't crash if you press the [Fn]+[F5] keys... )

That said, I have the Bestlink model, and the WordProcessor(AbiWord 2.4.5) is OK if a it dated. It can handle a 200 pages(A4) wihout too much problems.

The fact that you need to update the OS(using a path from a Dutch page, and deigned for the SkyTone branded mahine, because the OS recovery/updater doesn't work) to be able to use WPA-encrypted networks is another matter...

I've written a 'review' of the machine in my Forum, at:

http://totallytrygve.com/phpbb3/viewforum.php?f=18

If they can fix some of the problems, it would end up as a replacement for my aging Psion netBook. (Won't replace my S3c, though. Nothing can beat that. Unless someone have a S3mx they want to sell... )

think that's cheap? 

Posted Thursday 7th August 2008 21:36 GMT

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Aria have a similar laptop, the Eurobook, on pre-order for £140.

http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials/Laptops/The+Eurobook+7%22+Laptop+MiniBook+and+Accessory+Pack+?productId=33234

Actually, the 'Eurobook'... 

Posted Friday 8th August 2008 06:35 GMT

Is the EXACT SAME SH!T as the rest...

Wireless channels 

Posted Friday 8th August 2008 09:10 GMT

'Anyone with any sense uses...'?

Anyone with any sense checks what channels the neighbours' kit is using, and what their own equipment can support and then chooses the channel that causes least conflicts while supporting all of your devices.

By avoiding the 'sensible' channels suggested I get a much more reliable stable connection.

Not got a scobbie.. 

Posted Friday 8th August 2008 09:50 GMT

Alien

I hope its got Firefox 3 on it as web surfing with 2 on a 400MHz, 128MB PC is not going to be happy surfing time...

I noticed this in my local Maplins, the keyboard looks odd at first glance. That's because it has none of the usually localised symbols on the keys. ie like the £ above the numbers for example.

Quite honestly this is another Chinese manufacturer and British importer who really have no idea what we UK bods want in a small laptop.

2GB storage, 400MHz CPU and 128MB RAM really is far too low a spec. for modern web surfing and emailing.

It'll be half-price by Jan....