Best MPEG4 camcorder I ever bought:

http://www.samsung.com/he/products/camcorder/miniket/vp_x300l.asp

With included external weatherproof lens - for anyone into sports (Mountain biking, snowboarding etc) these are really great.

None of this 640x480 bollocks either - full 720x576@25FPS with a PAL pixel aspect ratio.

Sets you back about £250 at the moment though, but you gets what you pays for, innit?

How about a comparison between these and the Mobile in my pocket?

kids toy (kids without mobiles if they exist), not buying.

Wasn't very impressed with the video samples - they seemed quite lossy.

I'll stick with my Sanyo Xacti CA65. Easy to use - plenty of features, is waterproof, has generally good quality video and is also a quite respectable stills camera. OK, it costs more, but as someone's already said, you get what you pay for.

M.

Was that video taken with the latest vado firmware? I saw a video on youtube taken with the latest vado firmware the color is richer. Considering the price and screen size (bigger is better to look at), I think I shall go for the vado.

"...background interferences like wind, dogs, small children, Americans, etc."

Ho ho ho :)

Seriously in a portable device you need stereo sound so you can hear anything even indoors. Just try out closing one of your ears while listening to something, you will find out that with 2 ears you can hear a _lot_ better. And ADPCM, come on you can't have _that_ little DSP time left.

Such as? Would be nice to have some recommendations.