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Comments on: MSI intros cut-price Linux mini-laptop

More of this sort of thing 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 11:29 GMT

Keep the reviews coming, Tony!

Oh, jingle bells, bloody hell, which one do I choose....etc

Note to manufacturers 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 12:02 GMT

Stop

Make it a 6-cell battery for £20 less and you've got a sale.

Stop the HDD madness. I don't want to pay the for £60 the larger screen for an extra 40GB of HDD. And a pink only option for £10 and 40GB less is just silly.

If you want to sell me more hardware, bung in another GB of RAM (though that'd nark MS's XP licensing conditions as I understand it, but tough - I've got the cash ready & you're trying to sell to me).

When I shell out for a SCC/netbook/laptot, it'll have the following spec:

---> RRP £249.99 for a 8.9"/1024 screen version

---> RRP £299.99 for a 10"/1280 screen version

---> 4 hours of battery life with g Wi-Fi turned on (go on then, 3 hours at a push, if the recharger is like a mobile phone plug and you meet all the other requirements)

---> XP without any "free" MS Works trimmings and other bloat (I know that XP will run my progs. I know that Linux does not and does not offer an alternative prog. And no Wine-ing at the back from those that want to tinker. Let's have a "Minus XP for £xx less" option and we can all be happy.)

---> 1GB RAM (if you meet all the other requirements I _might_ accept 512MB as long as it's user-upgradeable to 2GB without voiding the warranty)

---> 1.6GHz CPU (likely to be an Atom in order to achieve battery life but I'm not really fussed).

---> Keyboard and trackpad to match the EEE 901 (I got hands on with an Aspire One and the button placement wasn't a real issue but the keyboard & touchpad are just a tad too small & fiddly.

---> Max 1.5kg weight

---> Storage can be anything from 12GB-ish. Preferably SSD. But as long as it's robust enough for the job and it doesn't impinge on battery/weight/size, I'm fairly flexible. I don't need to store vast libraries of files. This is a secondary device and I can use SD cards for extra storage.

---> Built-in 3G would be the icing on the cake and, as time goes by, is in danger of joining the above list as a requirement.

If you can't meet that spec then you can't have my cash. I can wait. We're getting there. Slowly. It'll all be sorted in time for Christmas.

All the while, the launch of the dinky Dell draws nearer...

Yeah, but what about the battery size/life ? 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 12:05 GMT

All very interesting but what about the Winds biggest current let down - the 2 hour battery life ?

Linux -> No bluetooth 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 12:08 GMT

Alert

When I look at msimobile.com the Linux model of the MSI Wind is conspicuously without bluetooth support. It is mentioned on all the windows versions, but not on the linux version.

So linux means no bluetooth?

Well see... 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 12:25 GMT

Coat

....but not if the "EvilSS" patent mob and the German Customs lads and lass have anything to say it!

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/08/29/customs_raids_german_show/

Too expensive 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 12:27 GMT

I can get a laptop for £300 already, with Windows (if you count that as an advantage).

In order to get me interested you need to break the £200 barrier. I don't want high-spec, I want cheap.

BTW Linux certainly supports bluetooth.

It's interesting that 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 13:42 GMT

Linux

for all the concerns about MS dumping XP licences to make the (announced) price of windows versions the same or even cheaper than Linux (esp eeepc), in the real world Linux is consistently cheaper - even for the eeepc. And when push comes to shove at the bottom end tiddlers, there is no contest.

BTW I looked at the £169 Maplin minipc. Pretty good actually - although lacking a VGA port so no use for presentations

No! 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 14:55 GMT

Stop

"Stop the HDD madness"

Quite agree. It's not an SCC if it's got spinning discs.

@spegru 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 15:10 GMT

The Maplin is the same device as the Elonex Onet; a 400MHz, Chinese-MIPS-knockoff powered under-specced device. At £169, with 2GB Storage and 256MB RAM, and 800 x 480 screen, you'd have to have a very good reason for wanting that odd CPU to choose it over the £199, 1.6GHz, 8GB/512MB 1024 x 600 Acer Aspire One.

I cancelled my Elonex orders after the interminable delays in getting the machines out; the money refunded paid for the Aspire and I'm glad I got it, though I got one for my 13 year old son as well, and discovered why the Eee's "protected" Linux partition is so useful - the Aspire needs a fair bit of faffing to recover from inexpert fiddling!

Can someone remind me please... 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 15:26 GMT

Gates Horns

... how much do you get back from Microsoft UK if you click the "I do not agree" box on the Windows XP licence screen and ask MS for the licence fee back because the Ts&Cs are unacceptable? IIRC, it requires a form to be filled in (sent by MSUK) promising that no copies have been kept, yada, yada, yada, on pain of being forced to instal Vista Ultimate on your electric toothbrush if you've lied (or something like that anyway...).

Obviously, if that rebate is greater than the model price difference, then it will be cheaper to buy the XP version (and boost the Vista sales figures!!) and apply for the rebate. This was covered in detail on El Reg some while ago (>1 year) but I can't find the article.

Pink for Girls 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 18:20 GMT

well they have to try it out don't they.

Blokes, well we all want the black one, with the best balanced spec.

...need! 

Posted Monday 1st September 2008 19:16 GMT

Jobs Horns

I just need to get my fix of the Ballmer with horns icon. I know, I should be quarantined and my reproductive privileges revoked.

I just need...you know...need...

Thank you Register, that feels so much better now.

@William Old 

Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 00:11 GMT

Linux

If people in the UK has been successful in getting that rebate it's news to me. (Actually, I think one bloke did, a couple of years ago and posted his draft letter on line somewhere)

I went after HP several times including citing an Italian case but they still told me to drop dead.

MSI seems to be a bit of a shed near Heathrow and there's no-one to talk to. I got a polite "we'll investigate" letter. From the very "no headed notepaper" I could tell that one was dead in the water.

And I tried somewhere else, but I can't remember which one it was.

Bring on the EC Competition case about bundling (France?)

And of course 

Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 09:15 GMT

Paris Hilton

And of course the 10" model brings it in line with the old light weight getting long in the tooth very tough and rugged alloy cased P2/P3 Toshiba Portege 3XXX series sold at the turn of the century for around USD$4000-00 give or take and a then massive hard drive of 6gig initially .

But in those days we didn't have to deal the bloatware sold now .

My times change in a mere eight years in the life of mobile computing , still very tempting though indeed and may be a goer after the usual review and full complete road test .

Joy of joys 

Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 09:18 GMT

Thumb Up

I want to get a cheap laptop/PC to play on and learn a bit about *nix. I was going to use the g/f's old Compaq, but if the price was right (and I can get wireless etc working) I might buy my own.

Like others, I don't need powerful (got a beast of a desktop for that) I want cheap 'n cheerful.

vga? 

Posted Tuesday 2nd September 2008 09:58 GMT

Is that a blue VGA port I see on the side? Haven't they heard of DVI?