By Arnold LiebermanPosted Monday 29th September 2008 13:36 GMT
Surely you mean "included in the price of...".
Until tomorrow, 3 are doing half price broadband contracts through quidco, which makes 1Gb/month work out at £120 over 2 years (ordered mine today). Add a decent netbook onto that and you might as well buy then separately.
By Anton IvanovPosted Monday 29th September 2008 13:42 GMT
Via C7 comes to itself if you use VPN and your VPN software is capable of using the hardware acceleration. In that case it can run circles around much "beefier" CPUs. The much slower 1GHz C7 can deliver several times higher performance than 2.4GHz Xeons. I would not expect the 1.6 GHz C7-M in this machine to be any worse than that. Probably even better. As a result using VPNs with this machine is almost "free of charge". For this reason alone this may end up being my next laptop (if it really ships with Ubuntu for sub-300£).
In fact, how about some benchmarks on fetching a file over VPN or on accessing content from a TLS-ed website. That would make an interesting comparison and after all if you use SCC you usually keep your data elsewhere so there is a point to it:-)
By RichardPosted Monday 29th September 2008 13:46 GMT
I've just bought an Acer Aspire One for £193 from Tesco (inc £5 discount) and have a Three 3G modem with 1G/month at £5/month ... that's just £13/month over 24 months!
The webbook is underpowered and too heavy and too big compared to the Acer.
The only thing that limits the Acer ... as does just about every other SCC at the moment ... is the tiddly battery ... however as the Acer is soo cheap then when the 6-cell batteries become readily available I can easily afford to upgrade it and have a 3-cell spare 8-)
By Matt SmartPosted Monday 29th September 2008 13:50 GMT
Actually, it's not £600. You're paying £25/month, of which £15/month is for the internet dongle, which orange sell on its own. So actually, you're paying 24 months x £10 = £240, which is a little less than retail value for the laptop.
Not that I'm saying £15/month for mobile internet is a good price, of course - it would have to be closer to £10 (with a much better guarantee of reception).
You make it sound as is you'd be paying £600 for the webbook alone. You can get the same contract without a laptop for £15 a month with Orange. So really your paying an extra £240 for the webbook, which is actually a saving.
By Peter KayPosted Monday 29th September 2008 14:15 GMT
Not content to plumb the depths of the barely adequate Acer Aspire One battery life, this netbook is even worse!
So, the Acer Aspire One with a six cell battery has a smaller screen and an inferior trackpad, but is cheaper, generally faster and has well over twice the battery life.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 29th September 2008 14:56 GMT
Why do you lot keep barking on about the option of Windows on these things? it's obviously there for one reason only: compatibility. Yes it won't run as well, but it will give many users the peace of mind of knowing that whatever they load onto, or plug into, it, it will 95% work.
Horses for courses, and as long as you have the choice, what's the problem?
Correcto. Maybe the Linux options do run very marginally better (no better on battery life though). But the time saved is negated by the time spent fannying around trying to get stuff to work. Assuming that there even is a way.
It might not be the optimum hardware for the job, and call me crazy if you like, but ("because I can") I'd be wanting to run AutoCAD 2000 (& Paint.NET & other progs like Inkscape, OpenOffice, Sketchup, Blender, Apache2Triad, &c) on one of these fellas.
No problem at all on XP - I'd be up and running in no time. And stick Avast!, Firefox with the usual Add-ons, Lavasoft Ad-Aware, Spybot Search & Destroy, and CCleaner on to an XP machine and the security benefits of Linux become negligible, too.
Bang on all you like about how Linux has alternatives, but there are some glaring holes that even Wine or "the forums" can't sort out.
The so-called "Windows Tax" for having XP on these SCCs runs at around £20. To me, that's a fair price. And the best value for money (for me) is represented by running FOSS (+ a few select others) on XP.
Remember that if your prefered Linux configuration is not available then you can buy the Windows machine, decline to accept MS's T's&C's, install Linux, and claim the cost of the MS licence back. But "You might need to do some searching around in the forums on how to do that." - as Lintards are so fond of saying. :-)
Meh. Such a ridiculous battery renders all other elements irrelevent.
I'll get an EEE 901 or Dell Mini 9 when they're available for £249.99, and no sooner. Or an Aspire One or Advent 4211 for the same price if they can double up on battery life.
By spegruPosted Monday 29th September 2008 17:56 GMT
I saw one of these in CPW in Chicester recently - it was running Ubuntu Linux!
I assume it was not a one off so here's an option that appears to be less publicised?
On the Linux compatibility side, considering a fully functional OpenOffice, skype etc etc there is no problem with compatibility for the things you want - but compatibility with crapware & viruses plus the consequent need for performance sapping antivirus software is something I can easily do without!
The disapointing things for me were the absence of webcam and the fact that the build quality appeared worse and any other netbook/scc that I've seen. Oh yes and the battery life is poor
By Giles JonesPosted Tuesday 30th September 2008 09:20 GMT
It's much easier to tweak applications to run on the strange low resolutions these laptop screens have.
With Windows you end up with dialogs appearing with buttons that aren't visible. In the Linux desktops you can CTRL drag the window so you can see the buttons, can't do this with Windows!
Comments on: Carphone Warehouse Webbook
£25 x 24 month #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:26 GMT
"Free" laptop #
By Arnold Lieberman Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:36 GMT
Fundamental error... #
By The BigYin Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:37 GMT
VPN is the key differentiator #
By Anton Ivanov Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:42 GMT
Caption error? #
By TeeCee Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:43 GMT
Not as cheap as £193 + £5 per month though. #
By Richard Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:46 GMT
@AC #
By Matt Smart Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:50 GMT
Re: £25 x 24 month #
By Lee Posted Monday 29th September 2008 13:59 GMT
Why used crippled Windows? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 29th September 2008 14:03 GMT
An hour of battery? Do me a favour... #
By Peter Kay Posted Monday 29th September 2008 14:15 GMT
Windows v Linux #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 29th September 2008 14:56 GMT
Re: Windows v Linux - AC@14:56 #
By W Posted Monday 29th September 2008 16:17 GMT
As for the machine in the review? #
By W Posted Monday 29th September 2008 16:22 GMT
Re: Windows vs Linux & Fundamental error... #
By spegru Posted Monday 29th September 2008 17:56 GMT
@Windows v Linux #
By Giles Jones Posted Tuesday 30th September 2008 09:20 GMT
- Tesco #
By Ian Watkinson Posted Tuesday 30th September 2008 14:08 GMT
aspire one #
By Graeme Posted Tuesday 30th September 2008 20:00 GMT
@Ian Watkinson #
By Richard Posted Tuesday 30th September 2008 22:24 GMT