By Wade BurchettePosted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:00 GMT
While I'll admit I always loved the Sega consoles over the competition, this is a bad idea. The market is has too many consoles of any kind and, in case Sega didn't notice, the economy is bad worldwide. Your biggest market, the US, is really suffering. Because of that, Americans have changed the way they lived by spending less. This thing is doomed to failure and Sega will once again be an afterthought. Focus on your games, because if you try again, you may lose everything.
By David WebbPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:01 GMT
Its Sega, after the 32X and Sega CD, anyone who decides to buy *any* Sega console needs their heads read. Their monster cockups are one of the reasons that Sony were able to attack the market and go straight to the top, if Sega had built quality systems, with support, and games and not the terrible ones they did make, maybe we'd still be playing Sega consoles today.
By Mathew WhitePosted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:02 GMT
It's worth mentioning from that youtube video that the "games" that is plays are described as "Java mini games" so not quite the PSP beater that the article title implies.
I would say that this is first a portable TV, and second a media player, but with only 2Gb of memory its going to be limited at that.
So Sega are going to release a new handheld console, despite having been out of the hardware market for the last two generations of consoles? The same Sega that basically admitted their hardware business died on its ass because they tried to over-saturate the console market with too many options, and then failed to properly support and promote the one console they'd come up with in years that people actually wanted to buy?
It's got less chance of beating the PSP than the Pandora, I'd say...
That really is butt ugly. While I'm not a huge PSP fan (more of a Nintendo man), the PSP is a nice piece of kit. Oh, and the 1990s called, they want their 4:3 screen back.
I doubt that Sony's eBook division is quaking in their boots. Simply no comparison with the Reader. Just because the iPhone has a camera, doesn't make it a competitor to Canon and Nikkon.
It looks like it can do little more than your average smartphone, only without the actual phone bit.
"Mini java game", so its not actually a portable Dreamcast then, its just plays mobile phone games if we're lucky.
Screen looks wrong for movies too, and i hope that 2GB memory is expandable.
No threat to the PSP if you ask me, this is a very niche device. The phone world has learnt that portable live TV is one thing that sounds great but few people actually need, especially with our 5 crappy channels.
By CharlesPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:32 GMT
Sega pulled out of the hardware market because they lacked the capital to continue viable ventures and now this comes along? Is this gonna be the Game Gear all over again?
I can't wait to ditch my PSP and play a portable console where all (4!) buttons are on the right hand side. I didn't need a d-pad, analog stick and 6 functional buttons that are positioned for gameplay anyway...
By HighlanderPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:58 GMT
Sega's last memorable entry in the hand held market was the battery munching and yet oh-so-very good Game Gear. Granted it was huge, and ate batteries faster than a taser set on 'extra crispy'. But it had a nice back-lit color screen, which compared to the dinky and rather dingy Nintendo of the time was a triumph. Sadly it was expensive and Sega simply couldn't compete with Nintendo.
In fact the PSP is the natural successor to the Game Gear, it's structural form is similar. It's build around the screen, you hold it at the sides and the controls are at each side of the screen.
But this 'new' device from Sega looks for all the world like a souped up handheld TV. The TV is presumably analogue so it's not like that will sell well in the US come Feb 2009. But come on, java based minigames? Between ElReg and the INQ the amount of pointless, heavily spun articles always picking away at Sony is just plain tiresome. This device from Sega is not and will not be a PSP beater. For a start it's not a game console, it's a pocket TV that also plays JAVA based minigames. The PSP is a handheld game console that also plays movies and music. These devices aren't even aiming at the same market.
I wonder when it is that small minded fanbo....er...journalists can put their bias away and start reporting facts and providing real analysis. Honestly the standard of journalism here is no better than the partisan journalism seen in the US analyzing the vice presidential debate.
Perhaps the author of this piece can look once again at the information being reported and do the factual and objective analysis, and edit this piece into something that actually reports without applying the author's own personal anti-Sony bias?
If you want a pocket portable with Alex Kidd in Miracle World, import one of these, it runs on 3x AAAs, TFT screen and has TV output!!!111eleven!! (NTSC, looks terrible though) I got one for mainly playing Columns on:
Oh and has anyone told Sega that they're turning off the analogue TV transmitters? Their new device better have a Freeview tuner, not that it'll be able to pick up that signal in most areas of the UK anyway...
By Ian FergusonPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:19 GMT
I'll wait for an actual Sega press release before believing that they're launching a major handheld games platform. As far as I can see, you've taken a photo of a gambling machine that has as a prize a basic media player, that happens to be Sega branded, and happens to play basic games; and read into this that Sega is going to launch a major new strategy, going head-on against Sony, despite the fact that they have recently stated that they're concentrating on making games for other platforms, not making another console.
I'd like to know what you're on.
Oh, sorry, it's Friday afternoon - I understand ;-)
By Anonymous CowardPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:50 GMT
I may have picked this up wrong but in the video the Sega is compared to the size of a credit card - does this mean that it is the size of a credit card? Along the short edge of the Sega are six buttons, now, go to your wallet and pull out a credit card. Imagine trying to press one of six buttons on that card.
Paris, as only she has fingers small enough to use the thing.
By A J StilesPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 17:15 GMT
Which country has only five TV channels, then? Even in Britain, and living so far down a valley that I have to go uphill to reach the river, I can pick up thirty-odd. Admittedly most of them are crap, but it takes a surprisingly long time to scroll through thirty-odd channels of crap.
By CharlesPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 17:55 GMT
The selection over-the-air is pretty paltry where I live, and that's in a city. Thing is, most US television stations are non-broadcast (part of this is regulatory--being non-broadcast means the FCC can't touch them--for now). Barring a few Superstations, only big network affiliates and independent local stations broadcast.
By Allan RutlandPosted Friday 3rd October 2008 18:41 GMT
It's small, easily lost, no doubt expensive, and if that vid's anything to go by fugly. The screens to small, the camera will no doubt be pathetic, as will video capture on something like that. And game play looking at the controls (again judging off the button placement on the vid) are such it will be nothing but frustrating (adding in java games thats even more frustrating). The screens too small for TV also. It's trying to be the next iPod, but its not. Don't even bother Sega, it's a flop waiting to happen.
By Alan W. Rateliff, IIPosted Saturday 4th October 2008 13:38 GMT
Wasn't the last Sega portable actually the Nomad? I have one of these, and I quite like it. It plays the full-sized Sega Genesis carts with a built-in LCD screen and 6-button controller, with a port for a second controller. It also has a video output port capable of S-VHS output (IIRC, it has RGB on the port, too) and an RF adapter accessory.
You really need to use the NiMH battery pack, as the thing just sucks AA's in no time.
No TV tuner like the Game Gear, though.
Anyway, this looks like a paltry entry from a once-great console maker, and like some other people here, I want to cry "fake." I cannot imagine that the formerly great Sega would produce such a gadget which runs "the Java mini game" without a slew of titles to go with it, and great fan-fare.
No. Indeed, I call Shenanigans on this. Although I would love to see Sega introduce a PSP-killer... it would really piss off the console makers for which it develops software. Probably not a prudent move without a HUGE secret undertaking.
Paris, she has a second port so a friend can join in, too.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Sunday 5th October 2008 21:13 GMT
I know this is the 854838965th post comparing it to the gamgear but lets face it..
Gamegear = chunky device with (optional) tv tuner and some mini (by modern standards) games. What on earth is new here? Oh I see, maybe the batteries will last longer than 45 mins?
By LightnixPosted Monday 6th October 2008 00:05 GMT
Screw you. Pull your damned finger out of your employee's collective bumholes and release a thing that I can play decent games on. Damn I miss the dreamcast... Well, I don't miss mine, I don't have to, it's sitting right here in front of me. However, I do miss its activity.
But yeah this does look like a fairly pathetic excuse for a piece of hardware. :(
By Simon BrownPosted Monday 6th October 2008 07:39 GMT
it's not a games console. It's the same as anyone of a dozen handheld devices coming out of China with a "name" stuck on them. I have a Wharfedale one, his similar "features" and absolute dog to use though.
I mean come on James, since when has Java Mini games been anything like PSP games? My £30 phone does Java Mini Games, and I rarely use it for that purpose. Also the PSP already does pretty much everything on that list, including eBook reading, if you know what you are doing. I think the onlt think missing is the TV tuner, but when you already have the PlayTV Slingbox style usage, it's not really that important to view LiveTV, when you can view LiveTV, including Satellite and pre-recorded TV on a PSP already.
This is just Sega and James trying to convince the world they are still relevant... James, go back to UKResistance...
By Anonymous CowardPosted Monday 6th October 2008 16:56 GMT
This is an aftermarket knock off
The "Sega Vision" trademark that is shown in the picture died in 1985!
SEGA VISION----(CANCELLED) IC 009. US 021. G & S: TELEVISION PROJECTION UNIT INCLUDING A VIDEO PROJECTOR AND VIDEO SCREEN. FIRST USE: 19761019. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 19761019
Filed in 1977.
Some back alley Hong Kong knockoff artist can use that "trademark" and slide through legal loopholes.
fifty thumbs down for posting this rubbish as news.
Comments on: Sega to launch PSP beater in 2009
Oh no #
By Wade Burchette Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:00 GMT
Sega... #
By David Webb Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:01 GMT
Hardly a PSP beater #
By Rhyd Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:02 GMT
Games... Not quite #
By Mathew White Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:02 GMT
You're having a laugh, surely? #
By Kyle Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:03 GMT
Glory days #
By Terry Ellis Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:03 GMT
Holy crap #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:08 GMT
Edit needed #
By Dan Rand Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:09 GMT
As a former Sega console fanboy #
By Dominic Kua Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:15 GMT
Butt ugly #
By Paul Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:23 GMT
Utterly unimpressed #
By Joe K Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:25 GMT
Can't help but wonder... #
By Charles Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:32 GMT
Nice idea, that #
By Jim Carter Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:34 GMT
WTF? #
By Chris Procter Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:39 GMT
Game Gear 2! #
By Martin Marv Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:39 GMT
looking at that.. #
By Rob Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:54 GMT
Heh #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:57 GMT
GameGear? Nope. #
By Highlander Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:58 GMT
Not a console? #
By Andrew Crystall Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:58 GMT
I like the movie/MP4 icon... #
By Mad Hacker Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 15:59 GMT
Surely #
By Will Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:02 GMT
@Dominic Kua #
By Haku Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:19 GMT
What? #
By Ian Ferguson Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:19 GMT
I.... What? #
By A. Lewis Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:20 GMT
TV Tuner? #
By Nicky Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:43 GMT
Is it really credit card sized? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 16:50 GMT
@ Joe K #
By A J Stiles Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 17:15 GMT
@A J Stiles #
By Charles Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 17:55 GMT
more room for a #
By Zmodem Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 18:37 GMT
Waste of time #
By Allan Rutland Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 18:41 GMT
Takes ageS #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 20:57 GMT
Did anyone say Dreamcast yet? #
By Dan_Hibiki Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 21:25 GMT
Where is that arcade #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 3rd October 2008 22:25 GMT
Rebadged MP4 with Sega logo stuck on #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Saturday 4th October 2008 07:23 GMT
Last Sega portable the Nomad? #
By Alan W. Rateliff, II Posted Saturday 4th October 2008 13:38 GMT
sheesh #
By radian Posted Saturday 4th October 2008 16:49 GMT
PSP Beater? #
By Anthony Chambers Posted Saturday 4th October 2008 19:06 GMT
Dreamcast #
By Richard Kilpatrick Posted Sunday 5th October 2008 00:15 GMT
Comparison with gamegear? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Sunday 5th October 2008 21:13 GMT
Dear, Sega #
By Lightnix Posted Monday 6th October 2008 00:05 GMT
5 Chanenels? #
By Michael Witte Posted Monday 6th October 2008 05:43 GMT
it's not a games console #
By Simon Brown Posted Monday 6th October 2008 07:39 GMT
LOL, Sony haters are getting desperate... #
By Mark Posted Monday 6th October 2008 09:01 GMT
Live TV #
By andy gibson Posted Monday 6th October 2008 12:30 GMT
FAKE #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 6th October 2008 16:01 GMT
FAKE---POOR JOURNALISM #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Monday 6th October 2008 16:56 GMT