By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:38 GMT
Er, that's not what the pictures show at all. It shows the *skin surface* heated up. That may seem a minor detail, but how do we know the skin warming wasn't caused by a fridge-sized 150kW pulsed chemical laser half a mile away?
By censoredPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:48 GMT
For a start, if you want to block waves heading into your brain, wouldn't it be better on the side of the phone that goes against your face/head, rather than the side pointing outwards?
Anyway if it blocks the waves, how exactly does your phone connect a call in the first place?
By Michael MillerPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:53 GMT
If it actually worked it would kill your cell's signal, wouldn't it? I think if anything it might actually reflect the signal back given the placement in the picture. I think you'd be better off to wrap you cell in tinfoil.........
When El Reg posts a story such as this I expect it to be firmly tongue-in-cheek and the product itself comprehensively ridiculed. Reading the article I see no evidence of such ("sceptical" ? You should be laughing off the edge of the bar) so I must either assume he's playing it straighter than the Conchords or else just simply lacks the basic physics that would let anyone know this product is the snake-oil of the most distilled variety.
Let's take a step-by-step:
It claims to neutralise radiation emanating from the phone. Mobile phones *work* by emitting radiation. It's their basic principal of operation. If this device worked as claimed it would render the phone useless for it's primary use.
It's also claimed that this chip emits ""a quantum physical information wave” towards your brain" to eliminate the phone's evil outpourings.
* There's no such thing as "quantum physical information wave”.
* I doubt very much that such a thing, it's non-existence aside, could be focussed.
* How the hell does this device know where my brain is ?
That's an awful lot of tech to be contained in something that looks like nothing more than a green sticker.
And whilst I'm worked up: The thermal images don't show anyone's brain being heated up by phone usage. They show the surface of the skin on someone's face emitting various levels of (possibly IR) radiation. You need more that a heat sensitive camera to accurately measure the temperature of the inside of someone's bonce.. what with the skull being so thick and all. Doubly so, it would seem, with this articles author.
All in all.. there is no bloody way this should have made it into print except as a joke... sort it out please someone.. have a word. This standard of journalism is more suited to Bella and not otherwise well-respected El Reg that we all know and love.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:23 GMT
Sounds like someone picked up a batch of those stickers that were being sold a few years ago purporting to increase signal strength and found a new use for them.
Find the company president, lock him in a room where he is continually bombarded with EM radiation at dangerous levels, and give him as many stickers as he'd like to repel the threat. See how long it takes for him to renounce his company's claims.
By npuppPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:37 GMT
Well, the best way, short of turning it off and not using it would be to use one of my (patend pending) lead Xpress-on covers. blocks 99.99% of harmfull radiation. side affects may include complete loss of signal and lead poisoning.
Mines the Quantum E-Wave Alien, because using words Mr J Public doesn't understand in advertising blurb doesn't mean it exists
"a Belgian firm’s latest offering may put your mind at ease..." #
By David WiernickiPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:58 GMT
If you're credulous enough to actually buy one of these things, I suspect that you haven't got much of a mind to -put- at ease.
Can I Interest You In Some Prime Florida Wterfront Property? #
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:09 GMT
At least, it's wet, and has allig... quaint marine fauna.
Those images are suspiciously low-res. If you're feeling bored tomorrow, I'd suggest emailing them to ask for the originals. They look like the colour scale is different on each.
By ChrisPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:15 GMT
Mobile phones emit electromagnetic waves. It is the close proximity of the electromagnetic waves to the head which is supposedly the cause of the alleged temperature increase.
You place a patch on the back of the phone, and somehow that is able to prevent radiation from reaching your head (how else could it prevent the alleged temperature increase), but does not stop the radiation from reaching the cell site some possible miles away.
And the patch is not placed in any particular way, and it's installed on the far side of the phone's antenna from your head, and it's somehow able to work at the different radiation frequencies without any change.
Results 1 - 10 of 10 for "quantum physical information wave" (articles about this product)
Results 1 - 10 of about 1,180,000 for "snake oil"
Results 1 - 10 of about 3,060 for "fear in advertising"
By TanukiPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:16 GMT
Such things have been around for ages - I remember a cow-orker trying to sell me a similar device [shaped like a ladybird] that you supposedly clipped to a random part of your anatomy and it somehow deflected the evil E-M waves from mobile phones as well as protecting you from harmful TV/radio transmissions, magnetic influences from pylons, spells cast by witches and alien mind-control rays.
Of course, if you do manage to reduce the overall radiation-efficiency of a current generation mobile-phone's antenna system, all that happens is that the phone cranks up the power in order to remain in touch with the base station.
Coat? Mine's the one with the '19-set High Power' in the poacher's pocket.
By FenwickPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:26 GMT
This is a con and does not work. I have seen this several of these sort of hoaxes before. One was even advertised by the BBC news website, which they took down after finding out it was a pack of lies.
Mobile phones emit microwaves that can be stopped by a thin sheet of metal. Placing a metal shield between you and the phone was thought to work until researchers found that it didn't unless the shield was so big as to become unfashionable/impractical. Wrapping the phone in foil should do it, but then you won't get a signal.
By Alan EsworthyPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:38 GMT
No need for anything this sophisticated and (I suspect) expensive. A simple barrier made of conductive material deployed as a continuous surface between the cell phone transceiver aerial and your primary neurological nexus should attenuate hazardous EMF to a safe level.
See examples at http://tin-foil-hats.blogspot.com/
Surely all this does is attenuate the signal a little and reduce the signal strength? Wrapping your phone in tin-foil probably works just as well for a fraction of the price.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:48 GMT
Why promote this sort of crackpot bullshit on the Reg?
Anyone who believes this works or may "just want to give it a try" (WTF?) should just tape £35 to the outside of their phone. It will have exactly as much effect as the sticker on how much radiation is absorbed by their brain (i.e. eff all) and will make them look like just as much of an idiot without filling the pockets of the charlatans that sell them.
By Mark WooldridgePosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:57 GMT
Oh dear... Not another phone sticker... Atleast I suppose someone will buy it if they have any money left after sending it to their new girlfriend in Russia.
By James O'BrienPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:04 GMT
So my plan of having tin foil hates for the masses is coming together nicely I see. Let this company get people scared and charge a preimum for their chip while I grab a roll of Reynolds and make custom hats for a tenner each. Yippieee
Not that anything using the phrase "quantum physical information wave" is worth seriously considering in the first place, but what are those thermal images supposed to represent? Clearly there is no phone in the picture. Would they have us believe that a cell phone makes the skin on your face hotter even when it's not near your head? And apparently with the aid of this chip it phone calls actually cools your neck off, very nice.
Paris because even she could see this makes no sense.
By Johan BastiaansenPosted Tuesday 9th December 2008 22:27 GMT
The worrying part is that Omega Pharma really is a well respected company in Belgium. The gadget seems to be developed by people with high credentials. So either they are fooled themselves, or they are desperate and trying to cash in on their reputations.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 00:23 GMT
>"Register Hardware is sceptical, to say the least!"
Pathetic. Let me spell it out for you:
The "E-Waves Phone Chip" is completely fraudulent; it does not do, nor even attempt to do, what the lying thieves who sell it claim that it does Any money the "inventors" claim for it is stolen.
If they disagree, please give them my IP address; I'll see them in court any day. Remember, in England, it's not libel if your criticism is true.
By Robert SynnottPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 03:10 GMT
"Remember, in England, it's not libel if your criticism is true." - Nor, discounting archaic and probably unconstitutional US state criminal libel law, is it anywhere else in the developed world, more or less.
As to the product, well, besides the dubious claim to neutralise radiation in a machine which relies on radiation (if it worked, in fact, the phone would just produce higher energy output, as it tried to establish a connection), these things aren't new. People have been making fun of them for almost a decade now.
Paris, 'cause, well, she probably has one.
Stupid people and their money will part ways.... #
By John TserkezisPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 07:13 GMT
I'm sick of it.
No really, I'm sick of telling people not to buy into scams, and they're still too stupid to see it.
The Green CD pen was the last straw for me.
That's it, from now on, I'm going to whole-heartedly recommend crap, especially if it's a scam, simply because I can get a laugh at how stupid they are.
So there. This Green spot, is, really really good. Go out and buy it.
It's sold by a pharmaceutical company after all. That says it all.
By Peter DenyerPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 07:56 GMT
I must have gone through a quantum gate and mystically moved through time to April 1, 2009. Great April Fools joke! Unfortunately, someone might just buy one of these.
By Martin LynePosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 09:16 GMT
The zombie of Faraday will be heading straight to these morons.
Just wear a lead hat. With a wooden outer layer. Preferably under SIX FEET OF DIRT. Might as well tell us Religion A protects from electro magnetic waves.
By Stu ReevesPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 09:46 GMT
Dear Nutcases,
your use of the words "quantum physical information wave" is probebrly patented by Apple Corp of America (Bullshit marketing dept). Please pay up or we will sue your ass.
By Peter D'HoyePosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:45 GMT
As inhabitant of the silly country called Belgium I have to excuse my fellow countrymen for spreading this complete bullshit around. Please send some hitmen to them to make sure they don't do it again.
Mine's the one with the new foreign passport in the left pocket
By Robert MackPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:55 GMT
Take a cocktail Sausage Roll
Place it in a microwave oven for 20 seconds
Pick it up.. It is still OK to touch
Take a bite into the meat and you will burn your tongue.
That is what happens with mobile phones. The soft tissue in our faces don't notice the effects. The more dense tissue of the scull and brain are affected more intensly.
By Bracken DawsonPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:57 GMT
Just tried one, it really does work.
Yours,
S. Wonder (E-Waves CEO).
The purpose of this technology they do not understand #
By Anonymous CowardPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 11:32 GMT
This technology from us have they stolen, but completely misunderstood it have they. Blocking of radiation does it not; relaying messages to Sirius the purpose of the Quantum Physical Information Wave is -- only thus the information faster than light can transmitted be.
By David PollardPosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 13:01 GMT
Google shows just 14 hits for this phrase in the past year and 9 in the last week. It will be interesting to see if/how this picks up in the blogosphere.
By Peter D'HoyePosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 14:28 GMT
This has been in the main TV news here with little or no negative arguments - I bet this will be selling very well :(
Good to see that El Reg's grasp of basic science is as solid as ever... #
By Jon KalePosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 14:47 GMT
as with "the Great Global Warming Conspiracy", so too with the "Harmful EM Radiation Shield".
Ever consider hiring at least one hack with a basic grounding in at science and scientific methods? Degree level will do, as long as it's a Real University rather than some jumped-up college of continuing adult education.
By SteviePosted Wednesday 10th December 2008 15:48 GMT
Word to the wise: If *anything* sold to the general public has the word "quantum" either in its name or in the "supporting" documentation, it is 99.999999999999999% sure of being a total fraudulent gyp. The other 0.000000000000001% isn't caused by truth, but by quantum mechanical uncertanties in the underlying universe and the display size of my calculator.
Write to the makers suggesting they can get a million dollars (now worth approximately 18 quid) by simply demonstrating to a team of appraisers working on behalf of the JREF challenge that this thing can do what the manufacturers say it can.
Quantum Prediction: The money is safe from this device.
By SparkyPosted Saturday 20th December 2008 18:19 GMT
Beware of talking down the heating effects of different radio frequencies. Domestic microwave ovens operate at 2.45 GHz for two main reasons:
a) The size of the resonant cavity and the cost-efficiency of producing the magnetron for that frequency are both close to ideal at 2.45 GHz.
b) The actual penetration depth at that frequency is in the cm range, the actual value depending on the salt content of the water but, again, ideal for food heating. The first resonant peak for the water molecule itself is above 1 THz and the highest peak is in the infrared range. Microwave ovens cook quickly because the penetration (to whatever depth) is immediate rather than the gradual with conventional heating. In practice though, a combination is used (the instruction to "stand for x minutes before serving" provides extra insurance that the heating-through process is as complete as it can be).
also, the frequency band around 2.45 GHz was one of the first pieces of radio spectrum globally assigned to ISM - Industrial, Scientific and Medical usage - well before there were such things as microwave ovens.
Actually, anywhere in the 900 MHz to 5 GHz range is technically fine for microwave cooking and some professional ovens (big ones) operate at 915 MHz. Remember also, that the medical treatment known as Diathermy (tissue heating) operates way down at 27 MHz (did someone mention CB radio?) while frequency-hopping Bluetooth devices are another user of the same spectrum.
The word "microwave" means nothing special other than "tiny wave". Depending on which text book you read, the microwave range starts as low as 300 MHz (the VHF/UHF boundary) or 1000 MHz (a nice round number). They're just radio waves which are the lowest energy part of the electromagnetic spectrum which goes on to include infrared, visible light, ultraviolet, x-rays and gamma rays.
Ron Schmitt's "Electromagnetics Explained" (pub: Newnes) is a good primer for those wishing to understand the phenomenon a bit and be able to debunk the quacks with their patches and crystals.
Comments on: Firm touts anti-radiation chip for phones
So it's finally here...? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:28 GMT
"how the users brain heated up" #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:38 GMT
Utter Nonsense #
By censored Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:48 GMT
This doesn't even make sense........ #
By Michael Miller Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:53 GMT
Snake oil #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 17:54 GMT
Oh for crying out loud.. #
By Tobe Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:04 GMT
These type of scams have been around for years! #
By Ryan Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:05 GMT
I've been using interference technology #
By Francis Boyle Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:09 GMT
would sir also like to buy #
By Paul Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:10 GMT
I'm sure someone else will say it first #
By Eddie Edwards Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:14 GMT
I just fell off my chair...... #
By John Browne Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:16 GMT
Yep... #
By Ex-IT Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:21 GMT
Visualise this... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:22 GMT
As viable a business opportunity... #
By TimM Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:23 GMT
hummmm #
By Nuno Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:23 GMT
So... #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:23 GMT
Bwah! #
By Franklin Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:33 GMT
Neutralise harmfull rays? #
By npupp Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:37 GMT
"a Belgian firm’s latest offering may put your mind at ease..." #
By David Wiernicki Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 18:58 GMT
Can I Interest You In Some Prime Florida Wterfront Property? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:09 GMT
Check the scales #
By Sven Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:13 GMT
I love the smell of snake oil in the morning #
By Chris Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:15 GMT
Oh dear... #
By Tanuki Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:16 GMT
Hoax #
By Fenwick Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:26 GMT
Low-tech solution just as effective #
By Alan Esworthy Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:38 GMT
Sounds like crap #
By Pete Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:40 GMT
Why? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:48 GMT
Been done before... about 10 years ago!! #
By Mark Wooldridge Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 19:57 GMT
Hmmm #
By James O'Brien Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:04 GMT
Rubbish #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:22 GMT
One for The Bollocks Files #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:22 GMT
Cool #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:22 GMT
Wow... #
By J Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:41 GMT
Huh? #
By Paul Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 20:42 GMT
The worrying part is #
By Johan Bastiaansen Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 22:27 GMT
Complete protection? #
By Dominik Stansby Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 22:57 GMT
Baby it's cold outside. #
By Patrick R Posted Tuesday 9th December 2008 23:38 GMT
You spineless cowards! #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 00:23 GMT
Oh, dear #
By Robert Synnott Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 03:10 GMT
Stupid people and their money will part ways.... #
By John Tserkezis Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 07:13 GMT
Did I get the date wrong #
By Peter Denyer Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 07:56 GMT
Is that #
By Jason Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 08:18 GMT
Ha ha! #
By Michael Dunn Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 08:58 GMT
Maybe not... #
By Ex-IT Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 09:04 GMT
Hmm #
By Martin Lyne Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 09:16 GMT
"quantum physical information wave" #
By Stu Reeves Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 09:46 GMT
A gift for con merchants. #
By Sam Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:31 GMT
hmm #
By Kris Sweeney Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:44 GMT
Sorry #
By Peter D'Hoye Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:45 GMT
Sausage Roll #
By Robert Mack Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:55 GMT
Brilliant. #
By Bracken Dawson Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 10:57 GMT
The purpose of this technology they do not understand #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 11:32 GMT
Whilst I firmly believe... #
By Martin Ward Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 12:20 GMT
"quantum physical information wave" #
By David Pollard Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 13:01 GMT
@ Robert Mack #
By Big_Boomer Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 13:32 GMT
I asked Santa... #
By Secretgeek Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 13:46 GMT
Where's the hand? #
By Dale Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 13:53 GMT
Next week: #
By TeeCee Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 14:06 GMT
next #
By vincent himpe Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 14:25 GMT
*sigh* #
By Peter D'Hoye Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 14:28 GMT
Good to see that El Reg's grasp of basic science is as solid as ever... #
By Jon Kale Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 14:47 GMT
Bah #
By Stevie Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 15:48 GMT
Of course it works! #
By Peter Simpson Posted Wednesday 10th December 2008 16:01 GMT
don't be to hard on the old el reg #
By michael Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 13:27 GMT
I'll just do what the schizophrenic on Hollywood Blvd does... #
By Bill Posted Thursday 11th December 2008 15:29 GMT
To Big Boomer #
By Sparky Posted Saturday 20th December 2008 18:19 GMT