By Ferry BoatPosted Tuesday 16th December 2008 12:58 GMT
Press at high pressure but with no added heat. The oil that flows at this stage can be called Extra Virgin Snake Oil. Take the pressings and pass via a centrifuge. The oil that comes out at this stage can be sold as Virgin Snake Oil. The spun pressings can now be heated and treated with hexane. This is last extract process gives just plain old Snake Oil.
"storm of protest broke out during which scientific proof of doctors and professors was brought into doubt" - nothing wrong with that except that scientific proof is, of course, usually considered to be intractable. the only way it could not be is either a) someone's made an honest mistake in their hypothesis or measurements or, heaven forbid, b) some company made up a press release purporting results that have subsequently been uncovered by a real experiment. uncovered that is, by the kind of science experiment concerned with the actual advancement of human knowledge and not, maybe, making a fast buck off some naive idiot duped by some very dubious press release.
By David WiernickiPosted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:33 GMT
Shocked, I tell you.
Actually, I'm a little shocked that they actually withdrew it - there's no way they ever BELIEVED it worked, so why pull it because it doesn't? God knows the assholes who make those signal boosters never had the same reaction to their bullshit product. Haven't seen any ads recently, though - maybe they took the money and ran.
By PeterPosted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:39 GMT
There was quite some coverage here in Belgium, and just about every expert said it was rubbish and even if it wasn't, cellphones would detect a worse signal and start to increase the power of the signals they're emitting, rendering the whole thing useless.
And the quantum thing would be totally irrelevant as normal physics apply to cellphone signals (I say 'would be' because I'm no expert, I just read it somewhere, then moved on to my evening of mind-numbing TV).
By Gerard KrupaPosted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:46 GMT
Why do we need quantum physical information waves when the radiation will clearly be stopped by all the pentapeptides, vitamin B-73, hyaluronic acids and other bullshitides that are found in today's cosmetics which come equipped with all the most effective fake effects that pseudo-science can provide.
By Steve AndersonPosted Tuesday 16th December 2008 15:40 GMT
From what I recall, in quantum theory the observation of an event has a direct effect on the event itself. Quantum encryption is unbreakable because merely observing it disrupts it enough to mark it broken. (Something like that. I'm at work and can't remember.)
So from this, I conclude that this chip works; it's just if you try and observe it working it stops working. I think the lights in fridges are similar.
By Chris O'SheaPosted Tuesday 16th December 2008 16:55 GMT
Steve said "I conclude that this chip works; it's just if you try and observe it working it stops working. I think the lights in fridges are similar."
Brilliant!
Yes, just like the "psychic" Uri Geller etc. whose psychic powers appear to be blocked yb having some reputable scientists, magicians and skeptics in the audience and checking out the equipment ...
"scientific proof of doctors and professors was brought into doubt"
I wonder, but am too lazy to check, whether they ever named the "doctors and professors", or gave the references to the peer reviewed, respectable-journal-published "scientific proof" they refer too...
Any time you see something like "many scientists agree with (or doubt)" something and it all sounds sketchy, you can be sure there will be no accompanying list of names or respectable publications. Or they will be engineers, or something -- which normal people sometimes mistake for scientists.
By Kenny MillarPosted Wednesday 17th December 2008 10:51 GMT
Sorry what? Have I missed something here?
I never trustd the tinfoils hats - because as far as I can see they have no active component, and won't work as a faraday cage since they are not grounded, but this new device should be ok, after all it's got a chip in it.
By Cortland RichmondPosted Wednesday 17th December 2008 13:09 GMT
Doubts? What is the world coming to!
Doubts they HAVE doctors and professors on this. Doubts the photos even have a handset in them. Doubts the scans could even resolve cellphone-caused thermal gradients. Doubts the ad writers know what information is, let alone the quantum kind. But about protection?
Comments on: Anti-radiation phone chip withdrawn from sale
a quantum physical information wave #
By Mark Scorah Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 12:37 GMT
Sounds fair #
By Flugal Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 12:44 GMT
@Mark #
By Ted Treen Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 12:47 GMT
a quantum physical information wave #
By Simon Neill Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 12:55 GMT
Take one large snake #
By Ferry Boat Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 12:58 GMT
@ James #
By Secretgeek Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:00 GMT
scientific proof...? #
By Ray Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:01 GMT
SCIENCE! #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:16 GMT
Must be true... #
By Dan White Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:32 GMT
I'm shocked. #
By David Wiernicki Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:33 GMT
Bombarding your brain... #
By Ash Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:36 GMT
ta but... #
By Al Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:53 GMT
LMFAO #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 13:55 GMT
Fonejacker #
By Ricky Cann Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:07 GMT
Pseudoscience #
By Anonymous Hero Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:26 GMT
Mumbo-jumbo #
By Peter Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:39 GMT
Re: I'm shocked. #
By Ken Hagan Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:43 GMT
Why do we need this? #
By Gerard Krupa Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 14:46 GMT
The great thing about quantum physics #
By Steve Anderson Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 15:40 GMT
2 things to say to the company: #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 16:34 GMT
@steve anderson #
By Chris O'Shea Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 16:55 GMT
Fool and money, first cause #
By Mike Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 17:38 GMT
phone radiation protection system .. #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 20:34 GMT
I wonder... #
By J Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 20:45 GMT
Noooooooooooo!!!!! #
By James O'Brien Posted Tuesday 16th December 2008 21:03 GMT
Presumably Q would design one for Jame Bond #
By Dr Patrick J R Harkin Posted Wednesday 17th December 2008 09:11 GMT
Eh? #
By Kenny Millar Posted Wednesday 17th December 2008 10:51 GMT
Shocked, I tell you! #
By Cortland Richmond Posted Wednesday 17th December 2008 13:09 GMT