By Matt BryantPosted Friday 27th February 2009 11:37 GMT
Whilst I wish them luck, for EV and/or leccy van sales to take off to the point where the scale means subsidies are unneccessary would need a national recharging point scheme. The Government needs draft legislation and to cough up for such a scheme on a scale much larger than £30m, and I can't see the petrol distributors like BP, Shell and Esso volunteering to commit suicide by putting charging points on every petrol station forecourt, especially the motorway services that the van drivers will need covered. Anything less leaves EVs as just town centre toys, which means they will never gain those economies of scale required to escape subsidies.
By goggyturkPosted Friday 27th February 2009 11:53 GMT
This actually sounds like a good use of government funds on the face of it - preserve some jobs and kick start innovation - although the devil is in the details. Probably more subs will be needed to get Nissan interested in building the EVs and they'll need to be dicounted again to actually be affordable to regular punters.
However, I can see a way this could be achieved... bend over Mr Goodwin!
By Anonymous CowardPosted Friday 27th February 2009 12:10 GMT
"The world will see commercial electric vehicles introduced by 2012"
I always like the spokesperson has really researched their subject. There are plenty of commercial electric vehicles around already. Indeed there have been commercial electric vehicles around for decades. 1912 may have been nearer the mark.
By Paul MurphyPosted Friday 27th February 2009 12:13 GMT
And good luck to them - it deserves to succeed.
The problem would surely be a chicken and egg one though, do you have subsidies for the vehicles, which then have nowhere to charge, or loads of charging points and no vehicles.
I would imagine that it would be a bit of both, put some charging stations up in car parks and parking bays where they will get used, and subsidies for the initial users, since hopefully later vehicles will get to be cheaper anyway.
Shame we didn't choose to go for electric vehicles at the dawn of the car age - we'd have much better batteries as well as vehicles by now.
By goggyturkPosted Friday 27th February 2009 16:46 GMT
"I can't see the petrol distributors like BP, Shell and Esso volunteering to commit suicide by putting charging points on every petrol station forecourt"
This actually wouldn't be suicide for these companies - they make very little from forecourt petrol any more. The party that would REALLY suffer is HM Treasury, who take something like 83p in every pound from petrol sales.
Black helicopter, because... well, it's obvious, innit?
By Pete JamesPosted Friday 27th February 2009 17:13 GMT
A question.
Why should public money be spent on a plug-in recharging infrastructure?
But will they mandate a standard nationwide connector design #
By John SmithPosted Friday 27th February 2009 20:24 GMT
It sounds trivial but I think this will be a key element in a level playing field.
Anyone who makes EV's knows they have a shot at the market. They can see (as can their customers) the network of locations they can tap into UK wide. Provided they are all compatible to begin with. Note a charge point could have more than one connector into a vehicle to "parellel load" their charge. I think commercial van drivers could handle this level of complexity.
The next issue will be the leccy companies tariffs for using it.
Buy why no word from London? The congestion charge should make this kind of vehicle a serious player.
By Ian BreachPosted Monday 2nd March 2009 07:49 GMT
As always, make it worth people's while: offer three years' free parking in bays and at meters if using an electric vehicle, appropriately labelled if necessary. It can't be beyond the wits of manufacturers and developers to collaborate with local authorities on this: it'd be in all their interests.
Comments on: North East to get £30m e-vehicle re-charge network
More jobs for East Anglia too #
By Tim Posted Friday 27th February 2009 11:33 GMT
Needs to be a national project. #
By Matt Bryant Posted Friday 27th February 2009 11:37 GMT
Flabbergasted #
By goggyturk Posted Friday 27th February 2009 11:53 GMT
Eh? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Friday 27th February 2009 12:10 GMT
Bold moves #
By Paul Murphy Posted Friday 27th February 2009 12:13 GMT
The North East? #
By Wize Posted Friday 27th February 2009 12:28 GMT
Immigration quotas explained? #
By David Pollard Posted Friday 27th February 2009 15:23 GMT
@ Matt Bryant #
By goggyturk Posted Friday 27th February 2009 16:46 GMT
I'm puzzled #
By Pete James Posted Friday 27th February 2009 17:13 GMT
But will they mandate a standard nationwide connector design #
By John Smith Posted Friday 27th February 2009 20:24 GMT
@goggyturk #
By Wun Hung Lo Posted Saturday 28th February 2009 08:22 GMT
TheGreenMan #
By Ian Breach Posted Monday 2nd March 2009 07:49 GMT