By Anonymous CowardPosted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:39 GMT
I do a lot of transcoding of stuff for my iPod and iPhone, so something to speed that up would be great. It's a real pity they don't do something for Windows as I'd buy it in a shot.
By The Unexpected BillPosted Thursday 26th March 2009 15:51 GMT
I'd like to know how this compares to the previous generation Turbo.264 transcoder hardware, is there any chance of opening the thing nonviolently to see what powers it?
I guess people haven't been overly curious about this, so I finally pulled my own t.264 apart and found a Mobilygen MG1264 working behind the scenes. (http://greyghost.mooo.com/turbo264/)
As for the burden on the main system CPU, I've noticed that with my previous generation t.264 as well--on Intel or PowerPC it always pulled about 50% processor time whenever it was converting video to h.264 format.
@AC - you might try asking about Windows support on the elgato forums. They do have developers and company staff participating there. However, as far as I know, the previous generation t.264 doesn't work on Windows either.
By Anonymous CowardPosted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:01 GMT
It's free, for Windows and Mac, and can transcode a 45 minute BSG episode to iPod touch compatable format in about 7-10 minutes on my year old quad core machine, I'm not sure 140 quid is worth the speedup?
Paris because she can't think of an original way to end a comment either.
By Daniel MossPosted Thursday 26th March 2009 22:34 GMT
Hmm. Recently upgraded to a Core i7 920 (my 6yo AMD Athlon64 finally gave up the ghost), and that encodes divxvid to H264 using Handbrake/MediaCoder at >350f/s. I suppose it might be worth it for under-specced Mac owners.
By AntidisestablishmentarianistPosted Thursday 26th March 2009 23:22 GMT
Wow really? Clever boy. Yes I can see it now - rather than buying a little usb stick, people will run out and buy a whole computer to do the same thing. Yes, it will be very popular......
By Shane SturrockPosted Friday 27th March 2009 00:04 GMT
I have the original T.264 and I don't really use it any more since I did some straight comparisons against HandBrake 0.93 and found that H.264 encodes are about half the size from HB and don't have all the blocking and artefacts that the T.264 produces with the AppleTV preset. I'm really disappointed with it since the picture is clearly sharper from HandBrake and the encodes are reasonably quick on my Core Duo MacBook Pro. I expect to get a faster machine at some point anyway and I think the extra encode time is well worth the disc space saving and better picture. Oh, and I can preserve the 5.1 DD audio with HandBrake too.
Skull and cross-bones despite it not being piracy if I'm ripping my own DVDs.
Yes, only an iLoon would pay so much for a USB dongle that DOESN'T do much of the encoding leaving the host system still highly occupied, instead of reusing the old parts you have left over after using that money to upgrade or start a new build.
This device is simply madness. Might as well totally soft encode on a quad core system. Que it up at low priority level and forget about it, a hardware encoder isn't all that good if it's not doing all the hardware encoding.
I might be considered a partial iLoon but even I can see that if the output quality is gash you may as well use Handbrake and leave it overnight to do the job. It would be good though if you could get something like this as some sort of co-processor that Handbrake et al could control as they all seem to have a better grasp on settings for transcoding.
no PPC!! -- plus, elgato trashes subs, dubs, CC- #
By zahadumPosted Friday 27th March 2009 04:32 GMT
1) I can't believe the reviewer failed to mention that elgato has orphaned PPC from its new products!
yet ppc is precisely the platform that most needs a hw boost.
FAIL.
2) audio files (mp3) are still not available as an input source! ...
so no conversion of your legacy CD library that was already roped into itunes :-(
FAIL.
3) no explanation (by the reviewer) for why the new driver architecture consumes so much of the CPU cycles!?
kinda defeats the purpose of off-loading, doesn't it!? ... unless it anticipates the changes in the MP execution model in snow leopard.
FAIL
4) despite years of complaints, elgato adamantently refuses to respect the integrity of users' source data -
the turbo264 throws away the complete set of subtitles, audio tracks, closed captions, karaoke, etc etc.
moreover, elgaro insists on using raster subs instead of generating proper vector subs.
and the turbo264 burns the subs into the main video track, instead of alpha-blending them from a separate track!
mega FAIL!!
5) elgato insists that they will not make any effort to work with the opensource lib264 community - which is the key codebase for both VLC and for HANDBRAKE.
whuch shows an unbelievable contempt for their customers needs!
*total FAIL*
bottom line: until elgato fixed it's attitude problem, tbd turbo264 products will remain over-priced & under-featured :-(
"If you already have a Turbo.264 and you're not an AVCHD camcorder owner, the Turbo.264 HD is more 'nice to have' than 'must have'."
HD is not only about camcorders..
It might be a bit useful for a home system using EyeTV recording HD shows for export to iTunes to view on a television via an AppleTV.
"Tweak the encoding settings to your heart's content" #
By F SeilerPosted Friday 27th March 2009 21:04 GMT
...with some 10 parameters?
Surely is an apple type definition of tweaking. Do "x264 --longhelp" sometime
I don't think that stick is a bad idea, but like others i'm somewhat not certain what the market is. It's certainly not a professional and on the consumer front it must be people who want to cling to old machines, not want to wait for an encode to complete and not care too much about quality (or is it quality-size-ratio).
By Christopher WoodsPosted Wednesday 8th April 2009 20:01 GMT
Even with the naff visual quality it's obvious with an A/B comparison that this device sacrifices PQ for the sake of raw speed.
Urgh. x264 + custom matrices does the job very nicely, and keeps all the visual quality. There's a reason all the HD rlsgroups don't use these dongles (instead asking for cappers with quadcore machines!)
Paris, because she goes like the clappers with a dongle in her
Comments on: Elgato Turbo.264 HD hi-def H.264 encoder
Windows version? #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 14:39 GMT
Bit pricey! #
By Jerome Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 15:05 GMT
Your source... #
By David Wiernicki Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 15:28 GMT
So what's inside one? #
By The Unexpected Bill Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 15:51 GMT
Hmmm, I'll stick to Handbreak I think #
By Anonymous Coward Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:01 GMT
Blocking out #
By Jared Earle Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:02 GMT
Upscaling? #
By Bad Beaver Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 16:49 GMT
Only 120f/s? #
By Daniel Moss Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 22:34 GMT
WTF? #
By Neoc Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 22:45 GMT
@Jerome #
By Antidisestablishmentarianist Posted Thursday 26th March 2009 23:22 GMT
I'll pass I think #
By Shane Sturrock Posted Friday 27th March 2009 00:04 GMT
@ Antidisestablishmentarianist #
By JC Posted Friday 27th March 2009 00:23 GMT
@JC #
By Antidisestablishmentarianist Posted Friday 27th March 2009 02:04 GMT
iLoon #
By Mark Posted Friday 27th March 2009 04:10 GMT
no PPC!! -- plus, elgato trashes subs, dubs, CC- #
By zahadum Posted Friday 27th March 2009 04:32 GMT
HD is only for Camcorders? #
By MacRat Posted Friday 27th March 2009 08:34 GMT
"Tweak the encoding settings to your heart's content" #
By F Seiler Posted Friday 27th March 2009 21:04 GMT
ffmpeg #
By A J Stiles Posted Monday 30th March 2009 16:35 GMT
Christ on a bike #
By Christopher Woods Posted Wednesday 8th April 2009 20:01 GMT