...until they realise that serious photographers want DSLRs and serious nerds want decent phones with only a camera to take furtive upskirt pics of women they can never have.

Ahem.

so it wont even be the first phone with optical zoom for Nokia.

What's the point? Huge file sizes mainly storing the pattern of noise that the tiny sensor was chucking out at the time...

Why not work on a camera phone that takes decent pictures with a normal resolution? I haven't seen one yet.

Absolutely. My Nikon D1 took very nice pictures, with only 2.3 megapixels. Better pixels please, not more - 3MP is the most any cellphone needs with current technology. (12MP is only twice that resolution)

There's no chance Nokia will include a decent wide angle either but it will have a useless flash, because it'll be specced by bean counters, marketers and corporate politicians, not engineers or photographers.

that I will willingly sell my house and all its contents to buy one, except for my real camera of course.